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Join us for a presentation on cyanobacteria, what is it, what are the health concerns, and what is the LWA doing about it, as well as what can you do?
There are two opportunities for you to learn about this important issue. The LWA will present on cyanobacteria on July 31st at Moultonborough Public Library, from 5-6pm. A second talk will be held on August 1st at the Wolfeboro Town Hall, in the Great Room, from 4-5pm. These programs are free and open to the public. Pre-registration is not required, but much appreciated. Please register here.
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Highly recommended sessions!
I attended one of these a few years ago in Moultonborough, and it was an hour well spent. Everything you could want to know about cyanobacteria.
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I hope these will be recorded and available on Youtube or the LWA website.
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We are working on having the Wolfeboro talk recorded by Wolfeboro Community Television and the powerpoint slides will be available on our website next week. The Moultonborough talk is unable to be recorded.
As a reminder, we are asking folks to pre-register so we can have a general idea of attendance. Please do so at the link below. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...eRBJA/viewform If you run into any issues please email me at [email protected]. Thank you and I hope to see you there!
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This should be the goal of Lake Winnipesaukee.. Interesting video, a lot of good points
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I’m sure all the out of state money with big homes and green lawns on the lake could care less about this. Very sad.
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Right now, you add market value by renovating the kitchen. I hope someday you will get improved market value by owning a "Lake Smart certified" home. Maybe our local state reps could add to this with a related tax credit? Many towns treat solar panels favorably.
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The state needs to get proactive about the burgeoning goose population and their disastrous effect on the lake !!
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You are so right. They are disgusting. I can't imagine what they are doing to the lake. Somebody said there was a group of them hanging around the Alton beach the last few days and what happens? It closes because of ecoli.
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Barefootbay and TIS are right.
We have owned a small camp in Moultonborough for over 40 years. Over the last 5 years we have witnessed what used to be 2-3 geese a year swimming by to what is now with no exaggeration, 25-40 geese every day. The droppings on our property is sickening; they are aggressive and what they have done to our property is really unhealthy for everyone but, especially, for our young grandchildren. While we don't own a big house or a lush, green lawn, I'm uncomfortable pushing the over use of fertilizer, and old, failing septic system problems without also giving the geese over population problem serious consideration. It's now beyond the high time to deal with this issue that has grown exponentially. Losing Winnipesaukee's beauty, its quality of water, and the revenue small businesses experience around the lake would be a colossal mistake. We are all guardians of this precious natural resource for our time; hopefully, our children and grandchildren will have a similar opportunity to enjoy Winnipeaukee for many years to come. As stewards, we not let this issue go unresolved. The Department of Environmental Services and Governor Sununu need to get serious before Winnipesauke & Cyanobacteria are synonymous with DANGER No Swimming Polluted Water become the top daily/weekly news bulletin. |
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But the geese are no reason to stop pushing against fertilizer, septic, and other issues. One problem is that there are different government bodies that handle each of them. Septic are typically town rules, fertilizer currently state, I'm pretty sure Canadian Geese are subject to an international treaty. We all have to fight all these threats at once |
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The State is septic also I believe.
But a coherent argument for change must be based on the question why certain lakes have problems and others do not? |
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What are the restrictions that exist for Squam Lake? Are they allowed to have grass around their homes? Do the septic systems have to be checked on a regular basis? Have they banned the use of fertilizer? I’ve never heard of any geese being on Squam Lake. and I’ve never heard of Squam Lake having cyano bacteria. Do the people that live there just care more than the people on Winnepesaukee and other lakes?
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Since PCB’s have been banned since 1979, someone from the “glory days”, you know the glory days back when the water was so much cleaner…. caused this issue. As an fyi…Squam has the highest concentration of PCB contamination than any other lake in NH. I would rather swim in Winnipesaukee than Squam any day of the week! While skin contact is most likely not harmful, any ingestion of contaminated water is not good. Dan
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But is the high level of PCB's keeping the geese population down?
Why doesn't Newfound have a geese issue? |
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The amount of food obtained from a much larger population of visitors and residents not to mention the lakeside lawns for grazing around lake Winnipesaukee !
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But I wrote the "community in general". I don't really count a single polluting company as as the community in general. This is similar to me not thinking of criminals as representative of the community in general. |
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Newfound is supposed to be the cleanest.
The PCBs have been banned, but working them out of the system after it is in the system takes a lot of time and effort... effort that we just aren't willing to put forth. |
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I would expect Massabesic. to be clean. As a water supply, many activities have been banned for many years. I recall, accurately I hope, an application to the Clean Drinking and Groundwater fund to assist in buying shorefront for watershed protection. This fund was started by Senator Chuck Morse in 2016 with original funding from MtBE settlement money from Exxon. It does all sorts of things from outright grants to low cost revolving loans for municipal water programs. His legislation set it up as a trust so the legislature couldn't raid the money for other purposes. We (Merrimack) got a $400K matching grant to help build filter/treatment facilities for PFAS.
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The Tuftonboro Old Home Week cardboard boat races at 19 Mile Bay have been cancelled because of cyanobacteria.
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Oh yes there a quite a few where it’s ok to eat the fish. Stocked fish like landlocked salmon, rainbow trout, brook trout, etc , etc, are your safest bet. If your going to eat other species like perch, bass and other natural lake reproducing fish, the smaller / younger the better as the longer they are in the water the more mercury they accumulate.
I believe NHF&G has a complete list of lakes where there are issues and what the recommendations are regarding fish consumption… Dan
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I don't recall seeing any lawns. ![]() But wherever will Winnipesaukee's absentee landlords put their lawns? McMansions are rented out to multiple families--some have multiple families at the same time! I'd be curious about Squam's geese, too. We've mostly heard about the hazardous-fish-eating issue.
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State needs to ban lawns within 50' of the water unless it's municipal with no pesticides being used such as Alton Bay or Center Harbor
This is getting ridiculous. If the homeowners aren't responsible enough to do the right thing, force them to. |
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The geese don't actually need it to be within 50' of water.
They like it freshly mowed. Easy to get the tender young shoots and bugs. Same with my yard, when we mow to promote clover, the chickens next door come over and eat all the bugs... and of course leave the manure behind. |
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Actually, "municipal" should show the way...
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Wow! Then nobody can have a lawn because it runs off from a lot further than 50'.
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Run-off that would be true... and laws exist for that.
But the geese are really not quite the same. The person establishing the lawn deals with the wildlife that it attracts... pretty much like any other landscape or feature. Think of it like a bear getting at your bird feeder or a skunk/racoon going for your garbage can. |
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While landscaping can make one home sell for more than another, the real benefit may be found in lower days on market - really not a problem with lakefront. I think it will take more of a mindset change in the buyers. |
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IDK anymore. It could just be wasting your money too. You don't know if the new owners are going to tear it down or totally renovated it to their own tastes.
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The poster wasn't suggesting it indirectly. They were stating it as fact from observed social behavior.
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From the NH DES Healthy Swimming Mapper
Alton area, Lake Winnipesaukee: Cyanobacteria watch (alert) issued Aug 19, 2024 Wolfeboro area, Lake Winnipesaukee: Cyanobacteria warning issued August 19, 2024; bloom description; light green surface ribbons and clouds of material accumulating along shorelines. Initial Cyanobacteria identified: Gleotrichia with a density of 1,562,500 Tuftonboro area, Lake Winnipesaukee: Cyanobacteria warning issued August 20, 2024; bloom description; clouds and light ribbons of small dots in the water. Initial Cyanobacteria identified: Gleotrichia with a density of 105,000
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Today is Wednesday, Aug 21 and apparently the NH DES posted two new orange warning signs, yesterday Aug 20, into the shoreline sandy town Waterville Valley beach, close to the pond water, "Unsafe for Swimming or Wading." The water surface looks very clean and clear with no visible green/blue Cyano growth and the water temp has dropped a lot in the last week probably dropping from about 70 down to 64, or so. Corcoran Pond is a beautiful 7-acre, dammed resort water body in Snow's Brook with a large town dock, kayak, canoe and sup rentals, and a large town sandy beach.
In the last seven days, Aug 15-21, the Lake Winnipesaukee water temp has dropped from 75 down to 70 which is a very steep decline. Is noticed these new Cyano warnings for Alton-Wolfeboro-Tuftonboro, Lake Winnipesaukee come with water temperatures getting colder, relatively fast, so maybe the colder water and the Cyano is related. I went swimming about 100-yards in Corcoran Pond two days ago, Monday Aug 19, for 100-yards and it was wicked cold, 65-degrees, and now if I could go back in I would definitely wear an O'Neal thermo top and a neoprene vest and a foam noodle swim belt. 64-degree water on a 60-degree, cloudy day is just too cold and not too safe for swimming the deep water, alone. When the orange warning NH DES signs are posted into the sand, people have still been allowed to swim and wade the water at Weirs Beach, Laconia. In Waterville Valley the Corcoran Pond is closed to swimming and wading and last July, 2023, I got evicted while swimming Corcoran Pond by two local cops ...... "hey you, this pond is closed, you see those orange signs, GET OUT, is not safe for swimming!" I always do the breast stroke or side stroke, resting long distance strokes, and keep my head and face out of the water in Corcoran Pond. Maybe this swim style can be named the Cyano stroke ...... ha-ha-ha! .....
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Way up north, Lake Frances, Aug 27, 2024, has an orange rectangle for Cyanobacteria alert on the NH DES Healthy Swimming Mapper based on photographs sent in to the DES that can be viewed on the Swimming Mapper. Pittsburg is the northern most town in New Hampshire.
The NH DES does not travel that far north to do inspections and goes as far north as Jericho Pond in Jericho State Park in Berlin, NH on a regular basis. Based on photos submitted that show 'green clouds of material along shoreline" the NH DES has placed Lake Frances on the map with an orange rectangle that is way up north, not far from the Canada border. You can look at the photos for Lake Frances in the Healthy Swimming Mapper. Lake Frances has never been present on the NH DES Healthy Swimming Mapper before, so this is its debut appearance! Meanwhile the two orange Cyanobacteria warnings issued August 20 remain in place today, August 27 on Corcoran's Pond so it is still closed to swimming by the Town of Waterville Valley. Besides the Cyanobacteria warning, the water temperature is now a cold 65-degrees, which is cold for safe swimming out over your head depth.
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