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01-15-2022, 10:52 AM | #1 |
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Where does New Hampshire stand on the freedom index for its citizens compared to 49 other states? The CATO Institute weighs in...
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/
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I wonder how many people think they're from NH but claim residence in FL for tax purposes? Will the pending phase out of the I & D Tax slow the outflow?
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I think they have a second home in Florida because they cannot handle the cold; and claim residency there for the homestead exemption.
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Because the wording and structure of Part First 28-A... the State could only exempt the SWPT part of the property tax. Something I think they already do for a certain level of household income.
It is why certain municipalities have threatened to sue on the issue of Current Use; and why municipalities are reviewing their short term rental regulations. Technically, if the local politicians were not such crony wonks, an AirBnB-type situation for any amount of time would be treated as a commercial B&B... which the State of NH does for purposes of the Meals & Rental tax. It makes no sense for those of us investing to purchase/develop hotels, motels, or traditional B&Bs if we are going to have licensing, taxation, and regulations (including zoning) that is more stringent than a homeowner competing with us for some easy cash. |
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interesting and not surprised.
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In most cases you have to work a lot of years and be retired before you can become a snowbird. Although, the remote work thing is opening up that possibility for many younger people. Just under 1,000 people a day are moving into the Florida and making the state their primary residence. |
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Interesting perspective.
I see it as a preference. After 56 years of New England winters I gave my snowblower away and have not looked back. I realized that I had spent half of every year wishing it would be summer again. In past years, I have skied, and owned several snowmobiles but that was really just to pass the time until summer came back. I really enjoy being on the water and and warm and sunny weather and now that opportunity is available 12 months a year. It is definitely a choice that I am glad I made. There is a reason they call Florida "God's Waiting Room". You don't hear of many people from the southern states retiring and going to New England for their retirement years. You do hear of many northern people getting Seasonal Affective Disorder from the weather and cloudy gray skies. To each their own. |
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For example, you appreciate that warm weather allows you to boat while I appreciate that cold weather allows me to winter hike, snowshoe, ice skate, take sleigh rides, tube and ski, sit by a warm fire and drink hot cocoa, etc. Add to that that Florida is so goddamn flat—precluding mountain biking, hiking, backpacking, etc.—and there's not much to do other than be hot and old. JK, of course, but people definitely have to find their happiness...and mindset is a major aspect of that. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk |
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When you meet somebody in FL, the standard is "Where are you from". In NH, it's "What do you do?" And yes, some people like to boat year round, but many come north so they don't have to share the pool with snakes and 'gators and to get away from the oppressive heat and humidity.
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For an interesting read on a recent (and largely unknown) NH political episode pick up a copy of Matthew Honglytz-Hetling's book "A Libertarian Walks Into A Bear". I am admittedly a staunch old NH conservative (“That government is best which governs least”) but this should prove to be a fascinating read for liberals and conservatives alike.
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To me a livable climate is one where you can go outdoors in relative comfort most of the year. That rules out an awful lot of days in Florida. Would you rather go hiking in Florida when it's 90 degrees with 95% humidity, or in New Hampshire when it's 30 degrees and sunny? Gotta run---temperature is up to 20 in the sun, warm enough for a lovely walk in the woods. |
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That is why I see it as a weakness.
When they present it, they are escaping the cold... or in reverse escaping the heat. They are not embracing the seasonal changes in the area and enjoying the change of activity. They are running from it. |
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You can dress to extremes to address extreme cold. You can only undress so far to address heat.
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So true. At that point you have no choice but to retreat to a life governed by air conditioning. I lived in Indiana for one brutal summer. I spent the whole day indoors by the AC. Around midnight I would go outside hoping for a breath of fresh air. Nope---it was still 85 degrees and 95% humidity and everywhere you were assailed by the loud hum of huge central AC units outside every building. I found it soul crushing and couldn't wait to get back to the land of natural lakes, mountains, and pine trees.
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It’s simply a luxury some can afford. Nothing weak about it. I’ll probably do 3 months per year in FL at some stage. I’ve camped in extreme climates, skiied the backs of mountains, been to the peak at -30, etc. But at the end of the day, if I can get 3 extra months of boating, I’m taking it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Lots of us here and even further north have a lack of sustained sunshine.
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Condo in Lakes Region, condo in Sarasota County. Travel a lot in the RV. Come to think of it I only spend a few months in Fl and NH. Mostly in the RV. So I can claim either state as permanent? Love the 'gypsy' life!
The way I see it I am in NH during the voting month, November. So I declare residency in NH to vote!
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Budget?
If you "live" in an SB2 town you can vote absentee in March/April and have a say in the local budget, and thus your local taxes. You can also vote absentee in the September primary.
If the current proposed national voting law is passed, it sounds like you can vote in several places, same day registration, no ID. This is especially fun in the primaries which are held at different times in different states. As with many other things, NH is first in the nation for the presidential primaries. It is not unheard of for "volunteer" campaign workers to register and vote in NH and then move to another sate as they follow their candidate around the country. Every vote counts, right? |
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I can respect that people like the mountains, like to hike, like to ice skate, or whatever their pleasure is. I have no need to criticize their choices, the differences in people is what makes the world work.
I would never call someone weak because they do not enjoy the things that I enjoy. It is all about choices and I am glad the we have the opportunity to make our own choices. I get to see a lot of the lake and the mountains for a large portion of every year. I have been on the lake some part, or all, of every summer since 1970. At this time I am happy for the opportunity to enjoy year round living with no snow and ice. I understand that it doesn't work for everyone and have no need to disparage anyone who would not want this lifestyle. It works for me. Views like this, that I am fortunate to see all winter long, are uplifting to me every bit as much as someone else might like to see newly fallen snow or fresh powder on a ski trail. To each their own. |
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It has nothing to do with enjoyment. I can find lots of primary homes that I can boat year round.
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Whaat??!! You're calling jet skis a view? Good grief, man. What's that white stuff on the shore? Looks like snow.
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In 2020 New Hampshire had the highest alcohol consumption per capita in the country. And that was not the first year NH has won that honor. https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ption-by-state New Hampshiire comes in third for per capita opiod abuse. https://www.drugabuse.gov/drug-topic...aries-by-state I guess there is not much else to do on those long winter nights! Here in Florida we go out for a walk after dinner because it is still light out. |
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Lowest price, highest quality ...... N.H. State Liquor ...... I'll drink to that! ..... https://www.vnews.com/Expanded-NH-li...sales-40759794 .... New Hampshire - Vermont ..... " border a booze battleground" .... 3-photos .... June 5, 2021
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"What Factors Lead to Excessive Alcohol Consumption in New Hampshire?" ..... http://www.narconon.org/blog/what-fa...hampshire.html .... August 17, 2020
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If anything, hard liquor is less accessible here than it is in other states. In FL, every mini mall has a (privately owned) liquor store.
Here, they are much more spaced out. You have to drive miles. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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NH is nowhere near the top of the charts for alcohol consumption...sales, yes.
Thousands of people from Maine, Mass, NY, NJ, Conn and other states stock up at state stores every week because of the tax free savings and low prices. They buy for themselves, neighbors and friends. and this all shows very inflated numbers for NH. Relax, we're not all alcoholics up here |
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Is certainly possible that sales to Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut and Rhode Island attracted to NH State Liquor's low prices and huge selection could be what this is really all about?
"The NH State Liquor store does NOT sell any adult beverage that is below 6% alcohol by volume!" .... ... "Live Free or Die!" Is highly unusual to see a car around these here parts to be driving erratic that suggests a drunk driver at the wheel. With cell phones everywhere, it probably gets phoned in pdq to the local PD. That's like the #1 first item on their police patrol hit-list .... no drunk driving! And, back 50-years ago in 1972, it was probably legal to drive around with an open can of Schlitz Beer held between your legs while you shifted into 3rd high gear with your right and clutched a Winston cigarette with your left, held up close to that vent window .... while listening to a local dj from that local a.m. radio station do a local advertisement, live ..... no kidding! Just watch out you don't hit a wandering black and white Holstein cow ..... that got loose .... mooooo! ...... remember Cow Hampshire! https://www.cowhampshireblog.com
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Not sure how a statistic like that can be analyzed. In a tourist state that attracts a lot of out-of-state vacationers drinking lots of booze, if you take the total alcohol sold, divided by the total population (How else would they do this?) the result will show lots of consumption per resident, compared to a state with little tourism...Like North Dakota (I got stopped for speeding in S. Dakota on Rt. 90 (doing 68 in a 65 zone with California plates). The cop asked where I was going, I said I thought, on my way cross-country, I'd head north and visit Fargo, N. Dakota. He asked, "Why would I want to go there? There's nothing in N. Dakota! ARE YOU TRANSPORTING DRUGS?" He then searched my car, even used a drug-sniffing German Shepard...Beautiful dog)...After putting my spare tire back into my trunk, the cop left, I repacked all my belongings sitting on the side of the road. Stopped at the next burger joint, had a burger and beer. Now I wonder how that beer was factored into S. Dakota's alcohol statistics? Probably skewed the result and caused all sorts of legislation...
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We had a conversation just last night about this very subject. We can see how the data "experts" can analyze the sales by NH Liquor stores and then take population and come up with a high per capita figure. What they can't do is determine who is buying, and where they live.
While we (our small group) certainly do all we can to keep the NH per capita figure up, we also know that when we go to the stores, especially in the May to October part of the year, odds are that NH plates in the parking lot are outnumbered by ME MA RI CT NY NJ plates. Bottom line, reports like that simply use stats to tell their side of the lie. Dave
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As my children would say “please speak for yourself”. Must say there is a terrific sale going on at the state liquor stores this month. 15% off 12 bottles of wine. More savings if you select those bottles from their power buy choices
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