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Originally Posted by Woodsy
While electrification might be the end game... until we get clean energy generation AND more importantly, clean battery/storage technology it is all for naught. Those lithium batteries in your EV are beyond hazmat! At best they can only recover 50% of the lithium when they are recycled... this will lead to a huge toxic waste management issue as EV's become more popular.
No matter what people say, there is no such thing as "green" energy. They all have serious downsides.... and a huge potential for unintended consequences.
As XCR pointed out, hydrogen is promising, but not there yet. IMHO, SMR's are coming, but they aren't quite there yet either. Will they get here soon enough to help? Doubtful. If we don't get India, China & Pakistan and most 3rd world countries on board... nothing we do is going to matter.
No matter what side of any issue you are on, there is an upside, a downside and worse yet... unintended consequences.
Woodsy
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Well, at least we agree that electrification is the end game.
In the meantime, there's a group of people doing everything they can to get us to electrification as fast as possible. And also a group of people dragging their heels with all sorts of lame excuses to stick with oil while the planet is warming.