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Originally Posted by Newbiesaukee
Exactly my point. The origin of NoMaskDay seems to be a libertarian group and the defense is against any interference by government in our lives. I may not agree...but it is a political position. It has nothing whatsoever with whether masks have anything to do with health and safety.
That is a matter of personal principle. Ok....but it has nothing to do with science or medicine. Saying “I won’t wear a mask because it does not work” just is not defensible.
And some of the stuff on the Internet is put on there by foreign interests precisely to divide us.
No more from me...I have to talk to the Instacart shopper.
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I am so sick of the science and facts arguments. If there are science and facts involved, and you are so confident that quarantining, social distancing and masks work, please answer for me --
How many lives have been saved as a result of quarantining a/k/a destroying our economy?
How many lives have been saved because of social distancing?
How many lives have been saved because of wearing masks?
How many cases of Chinese coronavirus have been prevented as a result of quarantining a/k/a destroying our economy?
How many cases of Chinese coronavirus have been prevented because of social distancing?
How many cases of Chinese coronavirus have been prevented because of masks.
You can't answer any of these questions. There will never be any way of knowing. For all we know, these actions may have made the situation worse. All we know is the raw data which is as follows:
Worldwide cases of Chinese coronavirus - 8,621,747
U.S. cases of Chinese coronavirus - 457,338
Worldwide deaths attributable to Chinese coronavirus - 2,265,400
U.S. deaths attributable to Chinese coronavirus - 120,723
*from Worldometer
By contrast the Swine flu, which was not accurately tracked, resulted in the following estimates:
Worldwide cases - 700,000,000 to 1,400,000,000
U.S. cases - 43,000,000 to 89,000,000
Worldwide deaths - 284,000 to 575,000
U.S. deaths, 8,870 to 18,300
*from Wikipedia
From the raw data, an argument exists that what we did in the U.S. caused more deaths than if we had handled it the same way as the Swine Flu. Clearly, given the average age of death from the Chinese coronavirus (82), we did a poor job in protecting the elderly.
Anyway, the raw numbers do not support our over-the-top response. Destroying tens of millions of lives for what?
In the meantime, I'd appreciate answers to my first questions if you have them.