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Old 03-18-2020, 12:57 PM   #42
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Makes zero sense. How a disease spreads and its death rate doesn’t change by crossing borders into a different country. Recall that this is a virus. You can’t cure it with antibiotics, all you can do is try to manage its symptoms and thereby only save some with medical treatment.
Meaning how Italy handles or doesn't handle a crisis has no bearing on the U.S.

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Good to know that our free-market health care system is going to save us, particularly when we have the same shortage of ventilators that Italy is facing. You state your concern for the wait staff and hourly employees, but many of those folks don’t have insurance in our free-market system. Are the hospitals supposed to turn them away so they can be the ones dying on the streets instead of getting some help in a hospital? The only difference between free-market and socialist health care systems in a pandemic is that the most vulnerable in a free-market system are the ones that will be turned away.
Before Obamacare exponentially increased premiums, catastrophic insurance was affordable. As far as I know, hospitals never turned anyone away, before or after Obamacare. Whether someone decides to sacrifice to pay for insurance is a personal decision.

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The entire point of “flattening the curve” is so less people are turned away and, hopefully, less people get sick. The lack of capacity of the health care system does not depend on whether it is a free-market or socialist medical system.


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All lives matter. That is the whole point. And thanks for jumping to conclusions, but I have a professional services firm that is being devastated financially here. At the end of the day, we have to make decisions about putting the health of the country, collectively, ahead of business and even individuals. It will be hard, but we’ll get through it. Yes, some bills will go unpaid and there will be struggle, but the goal is that we don’t have millions dead.
Easier said than done. Ask the restaurant owners on this Forum what they think. They can sleep easy knowing that at least according to you, it will be hard but they'll get through it. I'm in the professional services business, and although our employees are working remotely, our industry isn't devastated.

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How many people in NH need to die before you think it is justified to close restaurants, etc.? 100? 1,000? 10,000? Don’t forget, by the time you have a 100 deaths, you’ve already given 1,000 more an irreversible death sentence.
This is an easy one. 1500 in the U.S. There is precedence for this number. That is when our former president declared H1N1 an emergency. We are at 112 in the U.S. as this post is being written. And to the best of my knowledge, no one under 30 has died from the virus.

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Since you have determined this country’s government—both sides of the aisle—are being irresponsible and overreacting, perhaps you can provide us with your credentials on epidemiology that anyone should take your advice over the head of the NIH or the CDC?
There are a lot of so-called experts, in many areas of life, who I wouldn't listen to. There are a lot of lay people, who possess tremendous wisdom, who I would always listen to. This is my opinion, which I'm an expert at.

One question Cow, what was your response to H1N1 in 2009? Other than the hysteria created by the media and swallowed by our government, I fail to see any meaningful difference.
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