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jmen24 · 03-16-2009, 02:47 PM

I have to agree with LG 100% that the DES is not trying to prevent you from working on and around your lake front property. Most cases you do not need to have a tree count done or have your property surveyed if your increased non-permiable surface change is less than 20%. Even with that said if you add a garage to an existing structure you are only required to deal with the new runoff created by the garage, you do not need to revamp your entire property. Go beyond the outreach seminars and take the same course that I did that is a full day program (mine was in Lebanon) and really learn what CSPA is all about and stop listening to your neighbors about how restrictive this is. It IS good for the lakes all the way down to fourth order streams. You would also be suprised by how many tree points you have on your property as well and if you want to cut down that big oak you can. This program actually makes working around the lake easier because it is a one stop shop and if your project requires a wetlands permit, i.e. dock or boat house, you do not even need a CSPA permit as long as you are not extending past the wetlands buffer.

Seriously, folks some education on the CSPA is in definite need, the state just wants the future of the states waters to be better than it is today.

If you do not think that runoff water is that big an issue, run a hose through one of your flower gardens and only turn it on a quarter of the way and watch it for an hour.

03-16-2009, 02:47 PM	#16
jmen24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,139 Thanks: 223 Thanked 319 Times in 181 Posts	Agreed LG I have to agree with LG 100% that the DES is not trying to prevent you from working on and around your lake front property. Most cases you do not need to have a tree count done or have your property surveyed if your increased non-permiable surface change is less than 20%. Even with that said if you add a garage to an existing structure you are only required to deal with the new runoff created by the garage, you do not need to revamp your entire property. Go beyond the outreach seminars and take the same course that I did that is a full day program (mine was in Lebanon) and really learn what CSPA is all about and stop listening to your neighbors about how restrictive this is. It IS good for the lakes all the way down to fourth order streams. You would also be suprised by how many tree points you have on your property as well and if you want to cut down that big oak you can. This program actually makes working around the lake easier because it is a one stop shop and if your project requires a wetlands permit, i.e. dock or boat house, you do not even need a CSPA permit as long as you are not extending past the wetlands buffer. Seriously, folks some education on the CSPA is in definite need, the state just wants the future of the states waters to be better than it is today. If you do not think that runoff water is that big an issue, run a hose through one of your flower gardens and only turn it on a quarter of the way and watch it for an hour.