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Originally Posted by sa meredith
"...After a long period of time, the brain "forgets" how to create these signals and chemicals on it's own, and "shorts out". The results...the most god awful feelings a human being could ever be asked to deal with..."
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Worse than kidney stone attacks?
Kidney stone- and gallbladder- attacks are a "10+" on the 1-10 pain scale: I know, 'cause I've had both.
(Women who've had childbirth
and kidney stone attacks say kidney stone pain is worse).
Quote:
Originally Posted by sa meredith
"...Unless it is for pain related to terminal cancer, stay away from Oxycontin people..."
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Since 2001, I've suffered about 20 kidney stone attacks. For that pain, I am alternately prescribed
Oxycodone and
Hydrocodone—"the poor-man's opium". (Variously known as Vicodin, Percocet, Tylox, and Roxilox).
Oxycontin—illegally obtained—has been nicknamed "redneck opium".
For me, anyway,
Oxycodone and
Hydrocodone produce the same amount of pain reduction: that is to say, a scant reduction in kidney stone pain but feeling sleepy while suffering pain anyway.

I can't speak to methadone, but I have driven a car while suffering an attack—and again while medicated during an attack. While neither case is advocated here, it is possible to "work-through" the effects of such medications.
On those occasions when I had mistaken my usual creeping back pain as another attack (a
wrongly anticipated attack) the effect of Oxycodone or Hydrocodone is to take
ALL aches away from
ALL of the body.
Based on the result of those occasional "self-mis-diagnoses", I'd expect that nearly all of us live with a certain amount of discomfort all the time.
For those of us who are risk-
averse—like me today—the rejection of those tablets for mere discomfort or for recreation is very strong.
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Originally Posted by sa meredith
"...These is a path R2B. I travelled it.
As long as you have good health insurance (or a lot of money)..."
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It saddens me to learn that all of us "insured" are paying for those who most-often addict themselves.
Except for one occasion when I threatened to leave a neighbor's house when he couldn't restrain himself any longer from "lighting-up"—I've never been around people who use any illegal drug. I must be quite a fossil to say that. (Still, I'd advise that for all—and especially children).
Obviously, I'm opposed to a methadone clinic anywhere near me.
To finish here, I'll add what I've asserted before: the "gateway drug" isn't what you'd expect...it's tobacco.
IMHO