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Old 08-16-2007, 10:01 PM   #33
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Default Address the problem individually - not as a whole...

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Originally Posted by KTO
1)They drink their Corona's and dump them in the water, we found trash upon trash in the water (I went snorkeling in the area one monday), never mind the fat diaper...how about the one (or several) that are thrown behind trees because the culprit's parents can't stand the smell!

2)And it only get's worse! Just two weekends ago, these rafters were parking on private community property, walking across private community property (note that these people left their cars on PRIVATE PROPERTY!) and paid no attention to the community itself.

I feel bad for the boaters who just like to quietly raft and swim around their boats and picnic and are being troubled because of a choice few, 3)but what other option is there?
KTO - I appreciate the fact that you are not against 'RAFTING AT ALL...' But if these petitions pass, you are saying you are against ALL RAFTING... Why would anyone let a few of these inconsiderate idiots ruin it for EVERY OTHER PERSON who shows some responsibility on the lake....

1)Why not yell out to the people who are throwing their Coronas overboard or confront them about their trash/diapers??? If they are on your land leaving their diapers behind your trees, they are trespassing... You should post no trespassing signs... Or, better yet, why not call the marine patrol, fish & game, DES, or the local PD - whoever will respond to cite the people littering on the lake or littering and trespassing on the land. Actually, I know it is not your job to confront the violators, sorry - so lets just post it a no rafting zone and then they can dump their trash and diapers some where else... Making an area no rafting will not solve that problem!!!

2)And it only get's worse! Just two weekends ago, these rafters were parking on private community property, walking across private community property (note that these people left their cars on PRIVATE PROPERTY!) and paid no attention to the community itself. *- KTO can you elaborate on this??? I am a little confused as how the rafters (who are boaters tied together) parked their boats on community property, walked across (water?) private community property and left their cars/boats (illegally - I'm assuming) on private property and paid no attention to the community itself. Is this your own personal property that this happened on??? If not, why is it your issue??? If it is your property, why didn't you do something about it at the time, like have the cars towed or tell them to move along... Actually, I'm obviously kidding a bit here... I am thinking that you actually mean the people who had cars, parked them and went to meet the rafters??? Did they swim out to them or something??? Usually, when we go to a quiet secluded cove, you cannot get there by car... So I don't get the gist of this portion of your argument... Rafting has nothing to do with cars obstructing a water front property owner's path of travel into and out of his cove/dock by boat and/or obstructing their swimming areas... Sorry for my confusion...

3) WHAT OTHER OPTION IS THERE??? How about EDUCATION!!! Let's get the boaters educated about keeping the water and surrounding land clean and trash free. I know all of my rafting friends have garbage cans and garbage bags that we use on our boats... When we gat back, we all make a trip to the dumpster! Let's get a little responsibility on each side and the lake will be a better place... NO MORE FINGER POINTING... ACCOUNTABILITY and RESPONSIBILITY IS KEY!!!
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