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feb 10-13-2009 01:21 PM

Should I worry about the cold
 
I've been working 7 day weeks lately and haven't had the chance to drain my pipes when I usually do. Now we get this cold snap. How cold is it up in the Meredith area? Do I need to worry about them this week or are the days warm enough to alleviate any concern?

Pineedles 10-13-2009 02:17 PM

We never have closed the cottage up before November 1st. :)

meteotrade 10-13-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by feb (Post 108948)
I've been working 7 day weeks lately and haven't had the chance to drain my pipes when I usually do. Now we get this cold snap. How cold is it up in the Meredith area? Do I need to worry about them this week or are the days warm enough to alleviate any concern?

You're pushing your luck if you wait much longer. Lows on Wednesday night will drop into the mid/upper 20s.

BroadHopper 10-13-2009 03:12 PM

Always closed up around Thanksgiving.
 
Never had a problem.

Neko 10-13-2009 04:22 PM

I always start draining my water pipes after thanksgiving. But I also have my T-Stat set at 40 Deg's just in case I can't make it up. I also have my alarm set to go off at 35 Deg's.

Sunrise Point 10-13-2009 04:38 PM

Your pipes are probably fine, but those 7 day weeks will wear you out fast!:laugh:

We traditionally drain our pipes around Veteran's day. Last year, the water pipes in our smaller cottage (it's that much more exposed to the north wind)were slushy on Nov. 11th. So we will close that one up a week earllier this year.

Pineedles 10-13-2009 08:03 PM

Don't think 11/1 is too late
 
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Originally Posted by meteotrade (Post 108957)
You're pushing your luck if you wait much longer. Lows on Wednesday night will drop into the mid/upper 20s.

November 1st is OK. We got a few years of experience under our belt. Although we didn't bring water into the cottage until 1923. :laugh:

Maybe the 86 year early frost is due?:look:

SAMIAM 10-13-2009 08:49 PM

Feb...don't even worry.....it would take several days of single digit temps before your pipes would freeze. Brief periods of 20's and 30's are not a problem.

feb 10-13-2009 09:12 PM

Thank you for the peace of mind
 
One less thing to stress about right now...

meteotrade 10-14-2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pineedles (Post 109004)
November 1st is OK. We got a few years of experience under our belt. Although we didn't bring water into the cottage until 1923. :laugh:

Maybe the 86 year early frost is due?:look:

Well I guess it depends how exposed your pipes are. Ours are fully exposed as our cabin sits on a post/pier foundation. Last year i head to fix several broken pipes after a night with lows only in the upper 20s in late October.

Mink Islander 10-14-2009 12:36 PM

Draining the water.
 
It really depends on your setup. If you're pipes are well protected, my guess it's not an issue. If they are exposed to the air, you're at some risk. 2 nights down to 27 degrees is pretty cold. Moderates again after that per Weather.com.

We drain the pipes Columbus Day weekend every year and fire it back up when we come up through Thanksgiving so long as overnight temps don't go much below freezing and daytime temps come up to the 40's. Our pipes are completely exposed under the house so we err on the side of caution.

If you have the time to get out there, I'd drain the system soon.

Pineedles 10-14-2009 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by meteotrade (Post 109099)
Well I guess it depends how exposed your pipes are. Ours are fully exposed as our cabin sits on a post/pier foundation. Last year i head to fix several broken pipes after a night with lows only in the upper 20s in late October.

Thanks for adding the information about the pipes being exposed. feb can now evaluate whether they have the same situation.:)

Mink Islander 10-14-2009 12:42 PM

Draining the water.
 
It really depends on your setup. If you're pipes are well protected, my guess it's not an issue. If they are exposed to the air, you're at some risk. 2 nights down to 27 degrees is pretty cold. Moderates again after that per Weather.com.

We drain the pipes Columbus Day weekend every year and fire it back up when we come up through Thanksgiving so long as overnight temps don't go much below freezing and daytime temps come up to the 40's. Our pipes are completely exposed under the house so we err on the side of caution.

If you have the time to get out there, I'd drain the system soon.

LIforrelaxin 10-15-2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meteotrade (Post 109099)
Well I guess it depends how exposed your pipes are. Ours are fully exposed as our cabin sits on a post/pier foundation. Last year i head to fix several broken pipes after a night with lows only in the upper 20s in late October.

This is why you always make sure you have a main shut off. I shut the water off comming into the house, and turn the pump of that way if something does happen. There is minimal water damage.

Also remember wind exposure plays a role hear. As well the lake effects the temperature as well.

Dave M 10-16-2009 07:01 PM

Another suggestion ?
 
I have exposed pipes as well. My camp is built into a side of a hill on stilts with the back section of the lower level exposed. Have always closed down the end of October and have never had a problem with broken pipes. As SAMIAM mentioned, it would take a few days of cold temperature to do some damage.
Just a thought though, could you use the "insulator" that can be put around the pipes. Does it work for cold as well as hot.

Dave M

DickR 10-18-2009 11:25 AM

My first camp was open underneath. I always figured closing the last weekend in October. One year, two days before that weekend, it went to the 20s overnight, with a breeze behind it, and the pipes froze. The breeze is what did it, as without that the heat radiating down from the cabin and upward from the ground would have slowed down the process a lot.

When I arrived, the melt water was dripping out the popped joints. All I could do was drain what what still was liquid, close up, and wait until spring. Then I spent a week on my back underneath repairing the damage.

Having a skirt around a crawl space makes a huge difference. A crawl open to the breeze, and uninsulated copper piping, will go to the end of October most years, but I'd never risk that again.


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