Hybrid Boat - Interesting
 

I knew it wouldn't be long before we saw this:


http://23e.epicboats.com/

Pretty interesting.

Looks Great!
 

I think it's great. Certainly looks like going "green" may still be fun! Let's face facts, we eventually have to do something and this certainly is a start!

Thanks for the post and link!!

Dan

How much??
 

OK How much $$$??

It can be yours for around $150,000. I just ordered two! :D

More info on the boat:

http://www.greenlaunches.com/transpo...ports-boat.php

Interesting article.

As far as hybrids go....

Which vehicle has a greater total negative impact on the environment?

A H2 Hummer or a Toyota Prius?

The answer would surprise most.

Well?? Why??

When you look at the environmental impact to produce, use and dispose of both vehicles it can be argued that the H2 is less harmful to the environment.

This study was done by CNW Research entitled Dust to Dust.

I am not saying I agree with it, but it does challenge what is commonly perceived.

I knew that answer! It has more of an impact during it's building process, particularly the parts and chemicals used to make the car. Post-production, it's cleaner than a hummer, however.

Did you know...it takes about 90 barrels of oil to make 1 car?

KTO “Did you know...it takes about 90 barrels of oil to make 1 car?”

That statement alone puts into perspective just how environmentally friendly the whole Cash For Clunkers program was, considering they had to destroy functioning automobiles.

Back to the point. A hybrid boat is certainly not cost effective and is probably not environmentally responsible as one might think. At a cost of 150K, the purchaser would never enjoy any financial benefits over the life of the boat. However an owner of a hybrid boat could put an Al Gore sticker on the transom and have the bragging rights that he or she is “doing his part to save the planet”. I guess that is worth something.

That study was also widely discredited as biased.

Fascinatingly, the website somehow added that link automatically when I copied only the text from the article. :eek:

From that same article this opposing viewpoint was offered:


The point of the matter is that many government agencies want lemmings not educated consumers who ask questions. The Prius crowd stick their noses up in the air at the Fossil Fuel crowd and here we have an individual that is raising questions. Perhaps the Hummer was a poor example but surely the run of the mill decent SUV or Sedan may throw the numbers into a bit of a spin in favor of good ole gas power. I'm not saying that either side is entirely correct it's just that the Left has a habit of calling everything "Junk Science" when it creates a chink in the old armor of so called "Global Warming" and the like. This is America folks ask questions don't believe what the government spoon feeds you. That goes for both parties.

Question everything.

Just because people say things over and over does not make it a fact. (Insert speed limit reference here). When people, organizations or governments have a financial stake in anything they can be and most often are bias.

They used the H2 in comparison because it was the polar opposite of the Prius. If they compared a hybrid to another economy car it would not have the impact the Hummer did.

It really doesn’t matter in this case who discredited whom. Does a Hummer do less damage to the environment than a Prius…probably not. The fact that the answer is not black and white is the point.

Back to the hybrid boat.

Is a hybrid boat better for the environment than a 2000HP offshore racing boat?

Probably.

Is the hybrid boat better for the environment than 19 foot bowrider?

Probably not.

Is the hybrid better for the environment than a sailboat, kayak or canoe?

Certainly not.

If your goal is to be green, be green. There is no safe cigarette.

"That statement alone puts into perspective just how environmentally friendly the whole Cash For Clunkers program was, considering they had to destroy functioning automobiles "

It was my understanding that the klunkers didn't have to be destroyed,,the dealer could do what they wanted with them.
The kash for klunkers plan should have stipulated that any new car bought had to be made by an American manyfacturer .Toyota and nissan sent thank you letters to the white house ..I think i read soewhere that 55 per cent of all new cars sold in that program came from japan..too bad !

But my Toyota pickup truck is 100% assembled in the USA, by Americans, with the profits going to a company that knows how to function without government intervention. Do a quick search to see where the Chevy Silverado is assembled. I realize that the plant in Canada was just closed this year, which is a step in the right direction, but it still required tax-payer money to fuel that closure.

P.S. I did not participate in the cash for clunkers program, that entire thing is a mess.

jmen24,

I have agreed with just about every post you have ever written. But the streak does end here…well kinda.

Toyota is subsidized by the Japanese Government. Japan does pick up the healthcare cost of all Toyota workers. That gives the Japanese automakers a competitive advantage (about 1,600 per vehicle).

Toyota is not subsidized by our government (at least not yet). The fact that GM is owned by our government is sickening. I am a little bitter about that, I was a stockholder.

No offense intended jmen24.

No offense taken, I traded a 2002 Silverado for my Tacoma earlier this year, for the fact that I felt the new GM trucks did not feel as well built as the Toyota did. This is the first vehicle I have ever owned that was not American made.

I did not know that regarding the subsidy from the Japanese Government. I guess my bucket has holes in it.:D

It's great to go green. It probably makes one run down the lake aweek and the rest of the time it's on the charger.:laugh:

That is the Japanese version of singlepayer healthcare at work. It is paid for by taxes on Toyota and workers. It is also mandatory. Their system costs about 8% of GDP as opposed to our 16% or so. There is a competitive advantage for sure-but I would call it fair.

Not exactly correct
 

Foreign-owned U.S. auto plants receive plenty of subsidies from local and state governments: http://www.cheersandgears.com/lofive...hp/t27245.html

Also, continuing the Prius thread, if you compare that ugly-a$$ car with a VWI diesel GTI, the Prius would be the chump....in the GTI's rear-view mirror.

Green boat around here somewhere,,heres the best !
 

Somewhere on this forum is a link for a new "green" 23' inboard.It is "kinda "green

here is one that is "TRUE GREEN" you don't even need a boat: you can go skiing alone !

http://www.wimp.com/waterinvention

thats what I call green !!