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Barney Bear 06-08-2018 04:21 PM

Winni by Air
 
While working on our dock on East Bear Island this Friday afternoon, several airplanes passed overhead as they prepared to land at the Laconia airport. Curious where these folks are from, and now coming to their places on our wonderful lake. Several years ago, we had neighbors who flew in from New Jersey and Texas. 🐻

8gv 06-08-2018 05:07 PM

I used to come up from CT.

Now my comings and goings are from Laconia.

upthesaukee 06-08-2018 06:41 PM

FL to NH
 
We had friends who divided their time between Naples FL and Gilford.

He flew a Piper turboprop back and forth. Landed at LCI (Laconia).

Dave

ITD 06-08-2018 07:15 PM

I come up from Mass, it's fun but doesn't really save time.

Descant 06-09-2018 01:47 PM

My sister's family used to fly up from Reston, VA for an occasional weekend in a Cessna 172. That was fun but eventually they just moved to NH.

ChasesIslandOkie 06-10-2018 01:03 AM

Slightly off topic, but I have memories of dropping off a family member in the 1980s at Laconia for a flight to New York City--not sure which airport. Does anyone remember this airline service or any other that has served Laconia over the years?

fatlazyless 06-10-2018 03:49 AM

Isn't that Bill Marriott in the big white jet that circles out over Tuftonboro, arriving or departing from Chicago or someplace, before landing at Laconia Airport?

He always flutters the wings as he flies by ......... helloooooooo and gooooodbye!:D:D

joey2665 06-10-2018 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless (Post 295756)
Isn't that Bill Marriott in the big white jet that circles out over Tuftonboro, arriving or departing from Chicago or someplace, before landing at Laconia Airport?

He always flutters the wings as he flies by ......... helloooooooo and gooooodbye!:D:D



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Barney Bear 06-10-2018 05:35 AM

Yellow Birds
 
Northeast Airlines served Laconia for several years. Their twin engine Yellow Birds would flock to our area.

We also would see the "Caroline" there when the Kennedy family came to ski in New Hampshire.

bilproject 06-10-2018 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Bear (Post 295721)
While working on our dock on East Bear Island this Friday afternoon, several airplanes passed overhead as they prepared to land at the Laconia airport. Curious where these folks are from, and now coming to their places on our wonderful lake. Several years ago, we had neighbors who flew in from New Jersey and Texas. 🐻

Go to flightaware.com you can track all planes leaving and arriving at Laconia airport. Click on the flight and you will see where they came from and where they are going. During the school year some that can send a plane to pick their kid up from Brewster academy and fly them home for the weekend. Sunday you will see a plane return from the same airport it went to on Friday.

3OPR 06-10-2018 08:41 PM

Phl - Laconia
 
In the late 70's my parents would put me on a plane from Phila. to Boston to Laconia. I think the airline from Boston to Laconia was Winnipesaukee Air.

The Winster 06-11-2018 10:47 AM

Here's a breif article with a little history of Laconia Airport

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/comm...b8fa38b42.html

joey2665 06-11-2018 11:06 AM

Very interesting article. Thank you for posing

VitaBene 06-11-2018 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Winster (Post 295800)
Here's a breif article with a little history of Laconia Airport

https://www.laconiadailysun.com/comm...b8fa38b42.html

My father and his partners owned Skymaster when they ran the FBO there, late 80s to early 90s. That 91 real estate downturn was a tough one in NH!

Kamper 06-12-2018 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChasesIslandOkie (Post 295755)
Slightly off topic, but I have memories of dropping off a family member in the 1980s at Laconia for a flight to New York City--not sure which airport. Does anyone remember this airline service or any other that has served Laconia over the years?

Probably Precision Airlines. Headquartered in Springfield VT bt eventually relocated to Manchester NH. It became an Eastern Express Carier and then Northwest Airlink service before going out of business in the early 90's.

The original owners, Walt and Suki Fawcett sold it in the late 80's and I believe they are the people operating the airport/airpark in Wolfeboro, now.

skprbob 06-12-2018 10:43 AM

conducting
 
Back in the late 60s-early 70s, my years as a counsellor at Camp Idlewild, I did not like being in camp on opening or closing day. The result was myself and two other staff members did "conducting" duties. We would travel to NYC the day before and went out to the airports to meet campers flying from various (usually far-off) places and get them onto the overnight charter buses up to camp. We would next fly to Boston and repeat the job, and come back to camp on the bus with the campers. Occasionally, this involved a flight between Laconia and Boston on what was then Winnipesaukee Aviation. We soon discovered that it was the only airline that was always on time, handled unaccompanied minors without batting an eye, and dealt safely and creatively with weather issues in order to stay on time. They earned our affectionate nickname of "Pterodactyl Airlines". They must have enjoyed that - I overheard a funny background conversation on the phone the following year between a supervisor and a ticket agent using that name!

tis 06-12-2018 11:35 AM

It's to bad they don't have some kind of service there now.

ChasesIslandOkie 06-12-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tis (Post 295835)
It's to bad they don't have some kind of service there now.

If it made money, there would be service.

tis 06-13-2018 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChasesIslandOkie (Post 295874)
If it made money, there would be service.

Obviously you are right.

ITD 06-13-2018 08:02 AM

There are small charter companies that will do this service in a small airplane, but think a couple thousand dollars if you want to do this. ($650/hr to charter a single engine plane). These guys would do it for you.

https://www.skylineflight.com/

joey2665 06-13-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ITD (Post 295884)
There are small charter companies that will do this service in a small airplane, but think a couple thousand dollars if you want to do this. ($650/hr to charter a single engine plane). These guys would do it for you.

https://www.skylineflight.com/

From Long Island, NY to Laconia $ 4,750.00 :eek::eek::eek: However, that is round trip :)

PaulH 06-13-2018 08:44 AM

Every summer for the past 26 years, we have been flying up from Arlington, VA to Winnipesaukee to stay on Sandy Island. The docks for the camp boat are on the opposite side of Winni, in Mirror Lake, so we used Laconia only once, when water taxi service from Fay's Boathouse direct to the island was available and affordable. Moultonboro Airpark is fairly convenient to the Sandy dock, so that's what we use, with Laconia as a bad-weather backup. For the first 10 years or so, we used Lakes Region Airpark, and I am still sad about it being closed as it embodied so much of the soul of Winnipesaukee, with bright blue water all around, a seaplane dock, and the legacy of the Horn family.

Doobs41378 06-13-2018 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 295887)
From Long Island, NY to Laconia $ 4,750.00 :eek::eek::eek: However, that is round trip :)



Only $1365 from Manchester. Flight time is 24 minutes. Without traffic I can get there in 50 minutes or so so what I’ll need to decide is that extra 26 minutes saved worth the money :)


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joey2665 06-13-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Doobs41378 (Post 295891)
Only $1365 from Manchester. Flight time is 24 minutes. Without traffic I can get there in 50 minutes or so so what I’ll need to decide is that extra 26 minutes saved worth the money :)


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Is that one way or round trip?


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ITD 06-13-2018 10:42 AM

You are paying for the airplane to get to you and go back to its base too. Manchester to Laconia is a drive, no brainer. LI to Laconia would probably be a 5 or 6 hour drive no traffic. In that plane it would be about an hour.

joey2665 06-13-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ITD (Post 295898)
You are paying for the airplane to get to you and go back to its base too. Manchester to Laconia is a drive, no brainer. LI to Laconia would probably be a 5 or 6 hour drive no traffic. In that plane it would be about an hour.

It's a 5 hour + drive as you stated, I've done it 100's of times, but 4750.00 to save about 6 hours travel time (travel too and from airport and misc airport wait time) is a little too rich for my blood.

Little Bear 06-13-2018 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ITD (Post 295884)
There are small charter companies that will do this service in a small airplane, but think a couple thousand dollars if you want to do this. ($650/hr to charter a single engine plane). These guys would do it for you.

https://www.skylineflight.com/

Worth every penny! That Cirrus is an incredible aircraft. I did my transition training for this plane over the winter in Naples, FL. One of the best features about it is the aircraft parachute.

Now if I can just scrape the $$ together to buy one....

ITD 06-15-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 295902)
Worth every penny! That Cirrus is an incredible aircraft. I did my transition training for this plane over the winter in Naples, FL. One of the best features about it is the aircraft parachute.

Now if I can just scrape the $$ together to buy one....

You just wrote my story, except for the Naples FL part, rusty pilot, back into flying last October. Working on my IR out of Hanscom now in a '16 SR 20.

ITD 06-15-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 295901)
It's a 5 hour + drive as you stated, I've done it 100's of times, but 4750.00 to save about 6 hours travel time (travel too and from airport and misc airport wait time) is a little too rich for my blood.

Didn't say it was economically prudent, just faster. The LI to Laconia, or even Moultonboro commute is about perfect if you fly it yourself in your own aircraft. It will never be cheaper than driving though.

joey2665 06-15-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ITD (Post 296026)
Didn't say it was economically prudent, just faster. The LI to Laconia, or even Moultonboro commute is about perfect if you fly it yourself in your own aircraft. It will never be cheaper than driving though.

I'm all for saving time to be at the lake longer and could do it on occasion if I wish but just can't justify and extra 4000.00 for a round trip to save about 6 hours in my head

ITD 06-15-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 296029)
I'm all for saving time to be at the lake longer and could do it on occasion if I wish but just can't justify and extra 4000.00 for a round trip to save about 6 hours in my head

I hear you, most people can't, but the fact this business exists at all means some people can do use this type of service. I see them coming and going a lot at Fitchburg.

Little Bear 06-16-2018 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ITD (Post 296025)
You just wrote my story, except for the Naples FL part, rusty pilot, back into flying last October. Working on my IR out of Hanscom now in a '16 SR 20.

Good luck! I hope you enjoy flying the Cirrus as much as I do.

ITD 06-16-2018 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 296054)
Good luck! I hope you enjoy flying the Cirrus as much as I do.

Thanks, I like the 20, but I love the 22.

Descant 06-17-2018 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 296029)
I'm all for saving time to be at the lake longer and could do it on occasion if I wish but just can't justify and extra 4000.00 for a round trip to save about 6 hours in my head

Assuming two people, that's about $2400 /6 hours, or $400/hour? Buy a new boat for $100000 and use it the average 35 hours per year. Hmmm.
We're just not talking about saving $$ here. Some like to fly, some like to boat and some like...

joey2665 06-17-2018 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Descant (Post 296096)
Assuming two people, that's about $2400 /6 hours, or $400/hour? Buy a new boat for $100000 and use it the average 35 hours per year. Hmmm.

We're just not talking about saving $$ here. Some like to fly, some like to boat and some like...



Some like both, like I do. Lol.


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ITD 06-18-2018 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 296097)
Some like both, like I do. Lol.


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Get your private pilot's license!! It's not nearly that expensive if you fly yourself.

8gv 06-18-2018 10:03 PM

If it floats, flies or ...

it's cheaper to rent!

joey2665 06-19-2018 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITD (Post 296196)
Get your private pilot's license!! It's not nearly that expensive if you fly yourself.



I would love to but I am a diabetic


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The Real BigGuy 06-19-2018 07:12 AM

In the 80’s my Dad had a Cessna 172 and used to fly from Beverly, MA up to Moultonboro when I was vacationing. At one point a friend of his got his instructor’s ticket and wanted to take his first student gratis before he started charging and asked me if I was interested. Dad offered his plane gratis. I turned it down because, at that time, if the leaves were ruffling in the trees it was too turbulent for me. BIG MISTAKE. A couple of years later Dad had a heart attack and gave up his license/sold his plane. He loved flying and would have loved to sit in the right seat of his plane while I flew.


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Little Bear 06-19-2018 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 296201)
I would love to but I am a diabetic


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You can still get a Class 3 Medical, and fly as a private pilot with diabetes. A bit more documentation and proof that your blood sugar levels are under control, but not impossible by any means.

joey2665 06-19-2018 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Little Bear (Post 296227)
You can still get a Class 3 Medical, and fly as a private pilot with diabetes. A bit more documentation and proof that your blood sugar levels are under control, but not impossible by any means.



Great to know. Thx. Blood sugar under control for years.


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Descant 06-19-2018 11:12 AM

Or, you can give the gift of flying lessons to a close relative. My wife took a few lessons to build comfort level. If something happened to me, she could get talked down OK. I gave my daughter flying lessons as a graduation present. I stopped flying, but it was still a great joy to sit in the right seat while she drove.

ITD 06-19-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joey2665 (Post 296233)
Great to know. Thx. Blood sugar under control for years.


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It's called a special issuance. You'll have to jump through a few hoops but it can be done, especially if you are under good control and have no other complications like eye or cardiac issues. Make sure you get advice before you apply, better to have your information secured before the exam, it makes the process much faster.

Descant 06-19-2018 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITD (Post 296271)
It's called a special issuance. You'll have to jump through a few hoops but it can be done, especially if you are under good control and have no other complications like eye or cardiac issues. Make sure you get advice before you apply, better to have your information secured before the exam, it makes the process much faster.

AGREE. a flight surgeon, not a PCP.


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