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chachee52 02-10-2024 08:30 AM

Disappointed in Gunstock
 
I will start with I learned to ski at Gunstock and love the mountain.
I now have a 7yo and want him to start skiing. Tried to figure out how much it was going to cost us to bring him to the Bunny Slop and found out that he has to pay for a full priced ticket. There is no lower mountain passes like there used to be when I started. Lessons? Well only happen during the day during the week, and we go south to visit people on weekend (opposite of what we used to do now that we live up here). So we'd have to pull him from school if we want lessons. Asked about group lessons and was told that we would have to bring the group, they don't just put him into a group lesson like other mountains do.
So basically we have to pay $52 to take him after school (night prices) for him to go on the bunny slope for 1-2 hours. $80 if we do go on a weekend or Sunday. My wife has a season pass so that makes it a little easier on the wallet.
I'm just surprised that they aren't as beginner friendly as they used to be.

BroadHopper 02-10-2024 09:00 AM

Sign of the times?
 
The 'big' mountains are taking advantage of teaching future generations of skiers. The way I see it, It's sustainability. They shouldn't have to take advantage.

I notice many parents are taking their kids elsewhere like Pat's Peak or Ragged Mountain. My daughter used to come up on weekends to ski from Conn. She found out it's cheaper to take the wee ones to Southington as their ski packages are a lot cheaper!

Just recently she found Mt. Snow in Vermont has an affordable package for her family. They are planning a few days there. They used to ski Gunstock.

I also found the Gunstock Ski Club race program a bit egoistic. Ever notice the 'graduates' are not doing well is future events?

John Mercier 02-10-2024 09:04 AM

Email the GAC...

They are probably a little worried about profitability to deal with all the other political issues... but know that if the locals have their back... they can expand or improve services.

FlyingScot 02-10-2024 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier (Post 391150)
Email the GAC...

They are probably a little worried about profitability to deal with all the other political issues... but know that if the locals have their back... they can expand or improve services.

Agreed! I would guess this is more of an error/oversight than a calculated plan to increase profitability. Not saying that don't want to maximize profit, only that their revenues/profits would be higher with a power price point for your situation.

Biggd 02-10-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BroadHopper (Post 391148)
The 'big' mountains are taking advantage of teaching future generations of skiers. The way I see it, It's sustainability. They shouldn't have to take advantage.

I notice many parents are taking their kids elsewhere like Pat's Peak or Ragged Mountain. My daughter used to come up on weekends to ski from Conn. She found out it's cheaper to take the wee ones to Southington as their ski packages are a lot cheaper!

Just recently she found Mt. Snow in Vermont has an affordable package for her family. They are planning a few days there. They used to ski Gunstock.

I also found the Gunstock Ski Club race program a bit egoistic. Ever notice the 'graduates' are not doing well is future events?

Even though I'm 15 minutes from Gunstock my daughter takes the kids to Cranmore, much more kid friendly.

fatlazyless 02-10-2024 11:24 AM

King Pine, located between Wolfeboro and Conway, NH ..... www.kingpine.com/the-mountain/live-camera ...... looks like it is designed for young beginner skiers.

"It All Starts Here" , their motto, means this is where young skiers go to learn skiing (or snowboarding).

Descant 02-10-2024 11:50 AM

Agreed--contact your state reps. They have a second job as County Delegation.

It's been a long time since I did kid skiing, but there used to be a staff member who marketed group sales. Can you get together a group e.g. School ski club, and get a group rate and or group lesson?. I recall areas had day care that included a lesson in the AM and one in the PM. The "class" was whoever was in the day care. I share the disappointment if Gunstock is neglecting its role as a family ski area with special services for the owners: Belknap County taxpayers.

John Mercier 02-10-2024 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 391157)
Agreed! I would guess this is more of an error/oversight than a calculated plan to increase profitability. Not saying that don't want to maximize profit, only that their revenues/profits would be higher with a power price point for your situation.

Not really what I was inferring.

Last season was highly profitable. Normally they would reinvest in things like this. But as our county legislators are rallying to once more go after the profits of the current operation... rather than seek to expand it and see greater future profits through reinvestment... the GAC may be waiting for residents to put forth their vision in areas like this. That way they know that this reinvestment of funds is fully supported and can push back.

Poor Richard 02-10-2024 06:34 PM

Pats Peak or what about Tenney Mtn?

magicrobotmonkey 02-10-2024 09:40 PM

I've got 3 kids in Laconia schools (this year we have 3 kids in 3 schools) and we've taken advantage of the Gunstock outreach program for many years. It's a great partnership with local schools to get kids out on the slopes and in lessons (in spite of some older one's protests) at reasonable price points. No complaints on our part. There's nothing like helping to chaperone the elementary school ski program and hiking up the hill under the light to pull a kid out of the woods to really live local skiing!

chachee52 02-11-2024 07:22 AM

Thanks for the feedback. We are looking into Tenney, Ragged, or even driving back to meet some friends at MacIntyre in Manchester.
I would assume all the groups at school are already full and taken. My kid is a little slow to new things so doing 1 on 1 with him for the first couple times is the best way for him or he goes into "lock down mode".

John Mercier 02-11-2024 12:09 PM

Well, whichever path you choose I hope all goes well.

VitaBene 02-12-2024 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chachee52 (Post 391188)
Thanks for the feedback. We are looking into Tenney, Ragged, or even driving back to meet some friends at MacIntyre in Manchester.
I would assume all the groups at school are already full and taken. My kid is a little slow to new things so doing 1 on 1 with him for the first couple times is the best way for him or he goes into "lock down mode".

King Pine is an amazing mountain to learn on!

codeman671 02-12-2024 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chachee52 (Post 391145)
I will start with I learned to ski at Gunstock and love the mountain.
I now have a 7yo and want him to start skiing. Tried to figure out how much it was going to cost us to bring him to the Bunny Slop and found out that he has to pay for a full priced ticket. There is no lower mountain passes like there used to be when I started. Lessons? Well only happen during the day during the week, and we go south to visit people on weekend (opposite of what we used to do now that we live up here). So we'd have to pull him from school if we want lessons. Asked about group lessons and was told that we would have to bring the group, they don't just put him into a group lesson like other mountains do.
So basically we have to pay $52 to take him after school (night prices) for him to go on the bunny slope for 1-2 hours. $80 if we do go on a weekend or Sunday. My wife has a season pass so that makes it a little easier on the wallet.
I'm just surprised that they aren't as beginner friendly as they used to be.

Gunstock has an Intro to Ski package right on their website. Its $140 and you book it online. They run it seven days a week. It includes rentals, a group lesson and a lower mountain pass. The calendar lists the number of open slots available, you do need to book in advance to secure a spot.

https://estore.gunstock.com/intro-to-ski-package

My son did it 2 weeks ago.

Pats Peak, King Pine and Cranmore are all within an hour of us in Gilford as alternatives. We can be at Waterville or Loon in about the same, but I would not recommend for beginners. Just too busy.

SAMIAM 02-13-2024 07:19 AM

Moultonborough used to have a program for kids at Red Hill.
A small but steep little hill with a rope tow but lots of fun for the kids and once they learned Red Hill they could ski anywhere.

bigdog 02-13-2024 11:44 AM

Ragged Mtn
 
Don't Pou-pou 'Ragged Mtn' in Danbury, it's a great little family Mtn, but still has 1200' vertical feet.

chachee52 02-14-2024 12:33 PM

I have been to all the mountains listed, excepts King Pine never heard of that one. And like all of them. It was more of I'm 6 minutes away from Gunstock so would have been nicer to go there after school rather than driving an hour both ways after school to teach the kid to ski.
But good news, he had a MD appointment on Monday that got cancelled because the MD was sick so my wife and him went to Gunstock, she used her 1/2 off ticket for him, and he loved it and was a natural.


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