From a person in local Govt
 

The wife of a state Rep.


Karen T <karen@karentesterman.net>
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I’m from the GOVERNMENT and I’m here to help!!! The most frightening words according to the late President Ronald Reagan.

The question is often posed, How did Germany let it happen?

We all have a fear of dying. We are human beings. We have a beginning, our birth, and we have an end, when our time for death arrives. That death may be sudden from an accident from a fall our an automobile. That death may come suddenly from a heart attack or from a lengthy disease. It may even come from our own hand through suicide or a drug overdose. But, we will all die. Every death brings sadness to the survivors, but at some point, we will all die. Yet our fear of death hovers over us as we fight to preserve life.

How did Germany let the take-over by Nazism happen? Now we know! The government exploits our fear of death and the citizens march in lock step …Baa, baa black sheep…"Yes, sir, Yes, sir, social distancing sir, face masks, sir, stay at home, sir," and it goes on and on.

God is not essential, but your liquor store is.

Every hour of every day we hear about the latest death toll due to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) virus. But we don’t hear about the deaths due to suicide, or the deaths due to murder, or the deaths due to car accidents, or the deaths due to cancer, and the list goes on, … YET, we are plummeted with the latest positive tests and deaths due to the CCP. And the result … the American people are panicked and afraid.

Yes, we have flattened the curve. But flattening the curve doesn’t prevent any death from occurring. AND…

We are being set up for subsequent outbreaks. Why, because we are in the stay at home, don’t be exposed, no contact with other human beings mode of operation.

The herd immunity that is oft referenced happens when large segments of the population build immunity in their own body. How will you be exposed if you are not allowed to come in contact with the virus? Though government controlled vaccination?

Scientifically, if your immune system is healthy, you can be exposed to the virus at which point your immunity kicks in and you don’t necessarily need to exhibit symptoms. Why? Because if you have a healthy immune system, it will fight the virus, and build antibodies. But if there is no exposure to the virus, you cannot build the antibodies and preventing mass numbers of the population from exposure will not result in immunity for the general population known as herd immunity.

Additionally in our panic and fear we are giving up our rights as we march to the Pied Piper of Government. Our right to freely assemble given up because we are ordered to stay at home. Our right to practice our religion is given up as church leaders follow the government orders to limit the number of people who can gather together and the social distancing mandate.

This is how Germany let Auschwitz happen. The government issued orders, the people followed in lock step and then the people became active participants in the government atrocity. Will you let fear and panic strip you of the God given freedoms our Founding Fathers and subsequent patriots fought to protect?

Meanwhile, the Governor and Senator Jeanne Shaheen welcomed 91,000 pounds of personal protective equipment from where? You guessed it? China!!! Are you kidding me?

I’m from China and I’m here to help! Help what? Spread panic and fear by sharing viruses? How you ask?

We stopped travel to and from other countries. We’ve even restricted travel between states and between our homes. Other countries are returning personal protective equipment made in China because they are flawed and do not meet safety standards and/or contaminated and we are going to freely distribute without testing across NH? Why?

Evil persists because good men do nothing. As Benjamin Franklin stated, “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

What will you do? Are you willing to fight for your liberty?

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Karen Testerman
karen@karentesterman.net
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"God doesn't always call the qualified, but He always qualifies the called."

Doesn't this make her husband "Germany"?

Same party as the Governor and President, and votes with his party 97% of the time

This person is seriously disturbed, and it's not right to publish misinformation and stoke fear on a serious public health issue. This thread should come down.

We have finally managed to mix religion AND politics into the same thread :rolleye2:

I can not wait for this particular (necessary) sub-forum to subside.

So anything that is not your opinion should not be seen nor heard?
Dream on my friend...

Thank heavens for that!;)

Obvious from my other posts that I welcome debate and only rarely suggest something is out of bounds.

I objected to your post because writer appears to be paranoid--warnings about "government controlled vaccinations", comparisons to Nazi Germany, and everything from China being contaminated--just to pick a few.

She is simply reiterating what a founding Father stated.

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

If that was all you posted, I would have thanked you.

The original post is:

An example of Godwin's Law.

https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/39024...n-21st-century

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So...
 

So...does this make Trump Hitler & the Republicans the National Socialists? Or is it our Governor who is Hitler?
And the virus is Communism.
Or...are we sheltering in place for the common good to flatten the infection curve so that our hopitals are not overwhelmed with a million concurrent cases which may reduce total deaths of 2,000,000 to perhaps 5% or less of that? Yes, the price is steep economically. Maybe if we could get enough fast tests so that we idenitify who is infected and who is not we might save our economy, our country, our democracy & western civilization. If only there was someone who could do that for our entire country. Someone who could marshal our national resources to accomplish this in a timely manner for the benefit of all.

Lost by 21st-Century Interpretation...
 

The article's title is:

"Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century"

I see it as:

"Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century"


BTW: Denmark's children—those aged 5 to 11—went back to school today.

The only problem is, the founding fathers didn’t need to deal with a pandemic. I’m sure it never crossed their minds, because back then, there was little they could do about it.


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Although I don't agree with what has been posted by the OP, I think that taking down the thread, i.e. cancelling the ideas presented is not the best response.

In our society today there is a tendency to try to eliminate the distribution of views that are found to be "incorrect" or "offensive".

To me it makes more sense to present arguments that counter those views.

In my opinion, Just trying to cancel it is weak rebuttal.

Edit: I'd like to add that my view is that sometimes freedoms are not taken away from us but instead given up voluntarily.

Perhaps...
 

Those who would give up essential Safety, to purchase a little temporary Liberty, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

an edited version was in the Sun today https://www.laconiadailysun.com/opin...9bf900c18.html

Here's a little something else our founding fathers had to say:

"When men enter into a state of society, they surrender up some of their natural rights to that society, in order to ensure the protection of others; and, without such an equivalent, the surrender is void." NH Constitution [Art.] 3. [Society, its Organization and Purposes.] June 2, 1784

Hey! Anyone can cherry-pick whatever they want to. Some tend to value independence and freedom over excessive government.

Art.] 10. [Right of Revolution.] Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men; therefore, whenever the ends of government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the people may, and of right ought to reform the old, or establish a new government. The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.

rant
 

Perhaps the most delusional rant I have ever had the displeasure of reading on this forum. Pure DRIVEL.

Really? You chose to quote an Article that begins "Government being instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men;..." as evidence to support claim that individual liberty was important above all else to the drafters of NH's Constitution?

Here's a question; which group of people is actually perverting "the ends of Government" where the stated the purpose of Government is "the common benefit, protection, and security, of the whole community, and not for the private interest or emolument of any one man, family, or class of men"?

What would the drafters of the document have chosen to save? Lives or profit? That is what this comes down to; Does one man right to the happiness of profit and property outweigh another's right to the happiness of continued life and family.

Your opinion...and you’re entitled to it...just like me.

If you can’t agree, it’s drivel...sounds like the MSM

Maybe cabin fever
 

Hoping it is just cabin fever....or are some people really just losing tough. Then again maybe they never were all that grounded?

Never heard of that before
 

Interesting. Although I would have agreed if it was about our feckless leader who wants to shut Congress and uses the virus to make his case.

Ha! That’s rich...whom, exactly do you want to be your “leader”?

Will it be...creepy, stuttering, hair sniffing, little girl touching, aide raping, quid-pro-quo Joe?
Feckless...that’s rich.
That’s what you are stuck with until your DNC decides it cannot be and tries a last minute shuffle to push some other weasel into his place...enjoy!

Did I miss something? Please elaborate.

Likely this?https://www.newsweek.com/trump-threa...ithout-1498178

From a person in local Govt
 

Because (creepy) creepy, (stuttering) slurring, (hair sniffing) p*ssy-grabbing, (little girl touching) repeatedly associating with a pedofile , (aide raping) 25 accusations of sexual misconduct , (quid-pro-quo Joe) quid-pro-quo Donald is all much better? Neither are what I would consider to be exemplary human beings but don't spew this hypocritical BS as if one of them has lived their life to a higher moral standard than the other.

simply ?

That video of him pinching the little 8 year old girl made me sick!! Biden is a creep. He doesn't just SAY things, he acts. Disgusting old man.

That presupposes, incorrectly I think, that politics isn't itself a religion of sorts. Lots of very strong beliefs that we're largely born, rather than reasoned, into.