Coming to Town during Corona?
I own a home in Alton, but live in Baltimore, we usually come to town once twice a month during the off season, and then for several weeks during the summer. Most eastern seaboard resorts (Ocean City NJ, Avalon, Ocean City MD) are posting "stay away" information. What is the mood in the Lakes Region?? Outsiders stay away, or come here and get the house ready for the season (Go to the local hardware store, not Lowes, shop at Hannaford). Don't want to be chased out of town.
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The Governor has asked people coming to NH to self isolate for 2 weeks. Our family is following that policy, and I think you should too
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If you’re coming from out of state, you should quarantine for 14 days. That means bringing everything you’ll need for 14 days and staying at your NH home for that time period.
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Actually it is quite simple:
Stay away but send us your money anyway! :D Depending on your method of travel you may expose yourself to the virus on the way up. Let's hope things get better soon! |
During this pandemic, what becomes quite apparent in this society is that people have no respect for the fact that they are a member of a society. Is it really that invasive to don a mask and respect social distancing during this period of time? Really, what does it cost you?
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Yesterday was a beautiful day. Lots and lots of motorcyclists frequenting our restaurants, e.g, Lakeside, Tamarac. Boats on the lake. Other than seeing a few people wearing masks you wouldn’t realize that anything is different.
Come on up, enjoy the lake. I have a feeling things will be back to normal very soon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Seasonal residents have every right to enjoy their own property.
At risk people should take extra precautions but there is no reason that we should not be able to go back to work and enjoy life as long as strict sanitary precautions are followed. I've seen several FB posts calling people greedy and selfish that want to gradually end the shut down but I would guess that these are people who are probably not effected financially. I'll probably get blasted but millions of lives are in the process of being ruined |
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I've been wondering about the outlook of locals in NH as well. I received an email yesterday from Mills Falls with May - June specials. I like to spend a few days there 3-5 times a year and was wondering how I'd be viewed if I were to book a stay. Granted it'd be nearly 2 months from now if I book.
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It will end soon in the Lakes Region. The silent majority will demand it.
Anyone see the pictures of Mt Major! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Did me you mean the joke?
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Fewer masks this weekend than mid-week, and tons more people out and about. It’s starting to look like a silent return to something close to normalcy.
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I find it interesting that most true NH residents I know who are usually "live free or die" hards are the ones saying don't come here, this is our state blah blah... Pretty hypocritical to me. Reading posts that people are getting ridiculed for wearing masks etc, who gives a hoot. I caught a look in a store last week and didn't even bat an eye. My mindset, mind your own business and be courteous and respectul. If that means right now wearing a mask, keeping distance, cover coughs/sneezes (which should be done year round anyways) etc than ok that's what you should do for everyones sake. I look forward to after this in hopes people still stay 6 feet from each other, allow people to pass by each other in shopping lanes etc. If I can smell your gross BO, bad perfume or alcohol standing behind me than you are too close to me anyways whether its pre carona, mid carona or post carona.
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Forest Service closes the white mountain national forest
http://www.fs.usda.gov/internet/FSE_...eprd729238.pfd
This very official looking "CLOSED" pfd poster style notice could become an historical poster as a way to view the 2020 C-19 for the next hundred years, or something. On Saturday, April 25, the Noon Peak trails parking lot in Waterville Valley had so many parked cars with Massachusetts plates, there was like maybe 20 cars parked out along Route 49 since the p-lot was already, totally full. Well you know the new huge billboard sized sign, just up the road there does sayeth "Welcome to Waterville Valley" (and bring your money, thank-you). |
How long for repairs?
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If not, maybe compare the cost of renting at CHI vs renting a small RV that can be parked at your place. Just a thought. Dave |
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When I hear news stories about "x more Corona deaths" they often say "all were 60 or older."
It sounds like an age bracket. If four people died who were aged 79,81,84 and 85, the above statement would be true but some what misleading. It would be interesting to know the actual age of the deceased and their underlying conditions. It seems that we have lost some who were not old. While some of those younger people who died from the virus may have had underlying conditions, I believe some did not. I hope that we can learn how a young, healthy person can be killed from this. We also have much to learn from studying how some people can just shake it off and even a few older people can survive its ravages. |
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If I'm healthy I'm happy! I'm not a worry wart but I am going to try and stay healthy any way possible. I don't feel it's an intrusion of my freedom. |
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I apologize if this has been posted in another post or thread, but I couldn't find it.
Here's a different perspective (one I completely agree with) from two doctors (MD's, not PHD's....). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRq...ature=youtu.be It's time to end this mess now. Open the state and let people get back to work, living their lives and taking care of their families. |
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Here's the next problem on the horizon. I put a link to CNN, so the alarmists might actually pay attention and believe it (or some of it). https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/26/busin...-ad/index.html |
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Thanks for posting! Dan |
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What you are "up against" is rational people who are able to sniff out BS |
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Russian collusion Ukraine collusion Paris Accord designed to destroy our economy Brett Kavanaugh (especially in light of the new Creepy Joe accusations) Complete overreaction, media- and social media-driven crisis designed to destroy our economy Give me some time and I can think of others. Did you see the video? I find it hard to believe that someone as enlightened and openminded as you did not find them even a tiny bit credible? They were rational, acknowledging the risks of the virus, while making the point that our approach may be wrong. |
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"I don't think it's necessary to change someone's mind on fundamental outlook type stuff. But politics aside, a person who is unable to change his mind on specific issues as new information comes in has my sympathy--that would mean he is unable to learn. If you like to think of yourself as a thinking person, and your views on things such as disease, economics, politics, family, society, etc have not been changing/evolving over the past couple of months, I'd say either you're not really thinking, or you're not really honest with yourself." So I guess we should believe Bill Gates and Fauci rather than two doctors on the "front lines"? |
Probably "over", but adding anyway...
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https://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-says-d...144600186.html |
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I might be missing something
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Anyway, the models were completely wrong. The alarmists and the media are complicit in ginning up this so-called crisis. |
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Should I take your reply to mean "yes the alarmists overreacted, and there is no reason to shut the food plants"? |
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Why r u asking permission this is the United States. Who cares what people think.
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Have to be a troll
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#2 you keep quoting how 2 million were suppose to die but never say that was without social distancing. #3 we do not yet know how many will die #4 meat plants shut down because they were overwhelmed with infected employees and could no longe run the plants. #5 Most of comments are so far off from reality I have no doubt you are just poking people for entertainment value. |
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You say that this is an overreaction, by the companies, to the virus. These multi national corporations are living in fear, and therefore are shutting operations. Strains credibility just a bit. |
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The gist of the article seems to be - the companies shut their own plants because there are too many high skilled American workers sick to safely operate them. I was curious why someone, such as yourself, posted an article that is more likely to be shared by someone with my views. Maybe we do agree. |
I look forward to the day that we can argue about which oil to use in our boats.
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Balance Needed
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With all due respect my main point is I simply don’t get the flu argument that you make. The data I have seen indicates one of the worst flu seasons in recent memory was when up to 60,000 people died here in the U.S. We have seen close to that number of deaths already and obviously many more to come, and all that is despite the incredibly draconian and strict measures that were implemented all over the world. In my humble opinion it is logical to assume the number of deaths would be far, far greater than the worst flu season had no measures at all been put in place. But even with the extreme measures in place we have failed. The U.S. population is but a few percent of the world but we have more than 25 percent of the deaths. We sadly missed the opportunity early on to rein this in. I agree though that our county needs a healthy debate on how to address the pandemic in the most reasonable way possible. I think the U.S. is having that debate now but our politics are so poisoned, people so polarized, and our faith in our political leadership so lacking that it’s an ugly, unhealthy, hate filled debate. Too bad the centrists are gone. They’ve been eviscerated from the public arena to the detriment of our country and its future. |
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There used to be a term: "the silent majority", hope it is alive and well.. |
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Working from Recent Memory...
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Pennsylvania's ME's forced their government health department to adjust their death-count numbers down by 1000. New York raised theirs by 3700. :eek2: Factoid: If your state's governor is a Democrat, your chance of dying of C-19 is five times higher than otherwise. |
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Firstly, the story about the dentist is true. It is obvious NTW doesn't know much about the Navy. Not all ships are assigned surgeons. Smaller ships, like destroyers, may have a dentist, a PA, or some other health professional who is not a doctor. These health professionals must deal with any and all emergencies when at sea. My friend had to reattach an arm of a seaman who severed his arm.
Secondly, I liken this to a bad flu because the raw numbers tell me so. To date, 56,803 Americans have died because of the Chinese coronavirus. (Although, I think this number is vastly inflated, since it includes patients in hospice, regular flu victims, and pretty much anyone in a nursing or retirement facility.) But let's take the number as is. For argument sake, let's say after the second wave that a total of 120,000 Americans will fall victim to the Chinese coronavirus. In 2017-2018, between 60,000 and 85,000 Americans died of the flu. I would say that 120,000 deaths is a bad year, perhaps even an historically bad year. We adopted our course of action because the models were wrong and overhyped. The media and social media got caught up with "flattening the curve" although this approach had never been tried. There is no evidence as of now that quarantining and sheltering has done anything to protect us. Nearly all victims are old and/or have preexisting conditions. It seems to me that a better course would have been to protect those in nursing and retirement facilities, since the vast majority of victims are from there. |
Numbers Over-Hyped?
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https://theconversation.com/failure-...numbers-137212 It seems a real stretch to argue that quarantining and sheltering has done nothing to protect us. That seems highly illogical and is contrary to what expert virologists worldwide believe. But maybe because we started so late in the U.S. the horse had left the barn well before we took measures to protect, and those measures weren’t all that effective and that is why we have such a disproportionate share of worldwide deaths. Seems illogical but who knows. But it’s impossible to make a reasonable argument that quarantining and sheltering didn’t protect people in countries that moved early and aggressively. It very obviously made a huge difference compared to countries that were late on the start and/or not as aggressive. |
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I believe the financial and economic harm caused by this overreaction will be far worse. I guess we'll find out. |
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I think I located “Belichick”
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....pening-up/amp/ |
There's George and Ted...
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Here's the career-bureaucrat Dr. Fauci rubbing shoulders with some famous names: |
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Thank you...check my post today that is titled "did you see this..." Check out the explosive live graph that shows on 2/24 US was at the bottom of all the world countries having the number of cases. Within 4 weeks we surpassed every country of cases. Then 6 weeks US had 40% of the world cases. What does that tell you? how could this have happened? This is not a seasonal 6 month flu by an means. |
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Definitely time to stop reading the COVID-19 sub forum when so much drivel is presented. I’ll stick to Top Waters excellent historical photos from now on. Sent from my iPad using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app |
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The goalposts seem to keep moving, but what the hell at this point. Have a great day!:cheers::cheers: |
By Dr. Fauci's Friends, You Shall Know Him...
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Eugenics, y'know, the "science" put into practice by that well-known name in German National Socialism? (Some celebrated his birthday on April 20th). I can't speak to the women of that group, but Dr. Fauci is surrounded by famous males who owe their "fame" to Eugenics. Quote:
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As a resident in the Boston area, I have been shocked at the size of the death notices section in the Sunday Globe for the last several weeks. Last Sunday's obituaries filled over 21 pages. It's pretty shocking to turn all those pages, and not at all normal. And these deaths are occurring within a lockdown scenario. Imagine if life had been going on as usual? The hospitals would be even more overwhelmed and we'd be digging mass graves. It's great that NH hasn't been as hard hit, but no-one should minimize the risk of a very contagious and unpredictable disease. Especially since there are asymptomatic carriers. |
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It is apparent that a large portion of the deaths are occurring in nursing/retirement homes. Why is this happening with all of the precautions we are taking, e.g., shutting down restaurants, gyms, church services, social distancing, quarantining, masks, gloves, etc.? It isn't people sheltering in place who are dying, it's our most vulnerable. Sheltering in place and social distancing did nothing to prevent the spread of the virus. Is it really heretical to question why we destroyed our economy yet our most vulnerable still died? Regarding hospitals, it is untrue that they are overwhelmed. In fact quite the opposite. Lakes Region General Hospital essentially shut down because of non-use. |
Don't always agree
While I don't agree with everything MAJOR says, I do tend to agree with some of the aspects in this last post. The fact of the matter is that over 1/2 of all deaths in Mass have been from nursing homes. Incredibly, incredibly sad.
Perhaps the strategy should have been even more focused on this population and facilities and less on the entire country. There are a finite number of these homes and assisted living sites and they could have taken steps to better protect these sites above and beyond the general population. In NY they were actually sending nursing home patients back to the facilities after being diagnosed with Corona if you can believe that. Could not comment on MA hospitals volume (would not be surprised if they were loaded up given it's the 3rd worse state for this virus right after NY/NJ) but a friend of mine works in RI and they are not overloaded. Will be interesting to see what the anti-body testing shows down the line. |
The Deathcount Itself Hardly Needs Such Accuracy...
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:confused: Massachusetts and Florida are both administered by Republican Governors. Since last year's election for Georgia's Governor was barely conceded, Georgia may not be "in the count". The contestant for Florida's top administrator was progressive Andrew Gillum, who's since made some devastating headlines: https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.or...-gay-escort%2F |
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