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Grady223 11-14-2008 04:16 PM

Update for Week Ending 11/14
 
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Here is the latest version of the List.

BlackCatIslander 11-14-2008 04:44 PM

Thanks Grady223
 
A comment and a question. Wallace Island is NE of Black Cat not Black. On your bottom line for Data, what is 109 and 51?

Orion 11-14-2008 04:58 PM

Getting there!
 
Thanks Grady223! Looks like it might take some Springtime reconnoitering to wrap up some of the remaining holes in the data, unless others find online tax data or other means to do so. The bridged islands (Governors, Long, Black Cat, etc.) might be a bit more difficult due to non-waterfront homes on them.

Pineedles 11-14-2008 05:30 PM

2 corrections
 
I believe that it was Little one Mile that the steamer Mt. Washington ran aground on, not One Mile.

Also, there are 2 distinct islands that make up half mile. Someone built a crude stone bridge between them but originally one was Goat Is. and I can't remember the name of the other. I'll try and find it.

Great work Grady223!

Grady223 11-17-2008 10:55 AM

BCI - dataline on the bottom is how many islands we have data on for each column - house data on 109 islands. I will make the change on Wallace.

Orion - I am OK with making this list for non-bridged islands only. I believe that is how it started.

Pineedles - I will make the correction and addition.

Thanks

Island Girl 11-19-2008 11:17 AM

The list
 
Hey Grady... may I post your list on my website... rattlesnakecam.com???

IG

tis 11-19-2008 05:47 PM

I don't know what you consider a house, but Hurricane Island recently had a little outbuilding erected on it. I think it is enough so they can spend the night. Is it a cottage??? Depends on your definition, I guess?

bilproject 11-20-2008 12:27 AM

Grady Correction for South Dolly (Bizer's Penny)
 
You correctly listed 2 homes for South Dolly and noted that Bizer does not list this island. Bizer lists it as Penny. However, if you go to Google Earth you will see Dolly Island listed and the Island to the South and East, which is completely divided by water until the lake level reaches below 503' marked as Penny. Now look behind Penny (as listed by google) and you will see another small island with no name. It is about 400 sq foot and has a 340 sq ft house on it 2 trees and a dock. That my friend is an island and it's name is Penny Island! What Bizer and Google call Penny (I'm sure Google picked it up from Bizer or Duncan) is known to the locals as South Dolly.
If you go to the Meredith web site and access the tax assessment put in Penny Island for a street address. Two listings will come up #1, #6. Two buildings are listed for #1 (South Dolly). These are owned by the same person but rented seperately and they are on opposite sides of the split in the island. They used to be owned by the Patterson Family. Number 6 is on the real 400 sq ft Penny island. Penny island is seperated from South Dolly by over 30 feet of water and no matter how low the lake I have never seen it connected to South Dolly. Maybe Bizer should go take a look. Be careful though as the chart is correct about the numerous shallow rocks. Penny has a dock and Carl Linstrom who owns the Island can even navigate them in the dark.
By my count that's Dolly-2, South Dolly-2, and Penny-1

Grady223 11-20-2008 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Island Girl (Post 84759)
Hey Grady... may I post your list on my website... rattlesnakecam.com???

IG


IG: Absolutely, I'd be honored, besides I am only the scribe - it is a collaborative effort.

Grady223 11-20-2008 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 84806)
I don't know what you consider a house, but Hurricane Island recently had a little outbuilding erected on it. I think it is enough so they can spend the night. Is it a cottage??? Depends on your definition, I guess?

If it is used for people to live in, I would consider it for our list.

PS: I will provide an updated version tomorrow.

Pineedles 11-20-2008 01:52 PM

"The Grady223 List"
 
Since this list is going to be placed on at least one other web site I hearby nominate the official name of this list as "The Grady223 List". All those in favor signify by saying Aye Aye.:laugh:

Grady223 11-20-2008 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bilproject (Post 84836)
You correctly listed 2 homes for South Dolly and noted that Bizer does not list this island. Bizer lists it as Penny. However, if you go to Google Earth you will see Dolly Island listed and the Island to the South and East, which is completely divided by water until the lake level reaches below 503' marked as Penny. Now look behind Penny (as listed by google) and you will see another small island with no name. It is about 400 sq foot and has a 340 sq ft house on it 2 trees and a dock. That my friend is an island and it's name is Penny Island! What Bizer and Google call Penny (I'm sure Google picked it up from Bizer or Duncan) is known to the locals as South Dolly.
If you go to the Meredith web site and access the tax assessment put in Penny Island for a street address. Two listings will come up #1, #6. Two buildings are listed for #1 (South Dolly). These are owned by the same person but rented seperately and they are on opposite sides of the split in the island. They used to be owned by the Patterson Family. Number 6 is on the real 400 sq ft Penny island. Penny island is seperated from South Dolly by over 30 feet of water and no matter how low the lake I have never seen it connected to South Dolly. Maybe Bizer should go take a look. Be careful though as the chart is correct about the numerous shallow rocks. Penny has a dock and Carl Linstrom who owns the Island can even navigate them in the dark.
By my count that's Dolly-2, South Dolly-2, and Penny-1

Thanks bilproject, got it.

M/V_Bear_II 11-20-2008 05:51 PM

From the other thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grady223 (Post 84880)
Thanks,

So - I guess we consider this 6 residences with 22 bedrooms combined.

Oops, posted this on the wrong thread - disregard.

Careful on this one. It sounds like you're talking about counting all of Oliver's buildings as being on Six Mile. Most of the lodge is on the mainland, on Powers Road in Meredith facing Pine Island. Only one building is on Six Mile, although Oliver also owns a tiny island between the mainland and Pine, which is completely covered by an A frame building. The name escapes me, but I'm pretty sure we already got it further up the thread.

Pine Island Guy 11-20-2008 11:04 PM

that would be one of the "geese" islands
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by M/V_Bear_II (Post 84888)
...Oliver also owns a tiny island between the mainland and Pine, which is completely covered by an A frame building. The name escapes me, but I'm pretty sure we already got it further up the thread.

correct, the little island in between the Y-Landing and Pine Island is Goose Island and there isn't much island to be seen since the A-frame is most of it.

PIG

Grady223 11-21-2008 04:28 PM

Update for Week Ending 11/21
 
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Here is the latest version, I have decided to give them edition dates so we don't get confused.

There are now 206 non-bridged islands on our list and we have identified 826 homes on 110 of them.

I have written to Bizer to get his concurrence of bilproject's explanation on Dolly, South Dolly and Penny. In the meantime, I have included bilproject's info in the list.

M/V Bear II & Pine Island Guy - thanks for the clarification on Oliver's.

twins 11-23-2008 09:38 PM

Goose Egg
 
I believe that Bizer is incorrectly naming the island off Geneva Point "Goose Egg Rock Island". Goose Egg Rock is the submerged shoal marked by marker 12. There are two islands off Geneva Point. One is called Hartsock Island owned for many years by the Hartsock family and I forget the name of the other next to it (Bobs Island?). They are on the newer charts that are sitting up at the lake! I don't see it on Bizer's list.

Grant Island has a house on it. There is no septic or electricty, so i don't think the owner can sleep there. Does That count?

twins 11-23-2008 09:48 PM

Goose Egg
 
I believe that Bizer is incorrectly naming the island off Geneva Point "Goose Egg Rock Island". Goose Egg Rock is the submerged shoal marked by marker 12. There are two islands off Geneva Point. One is called Hartsock Island owned for many years by the Hartsock family and I forget the name of the other next to it (Bobs Island?). They are on the newer charts that are sitting up at the lake! I don't see it on Bizer's list.

Anyway, they both have 1 house on them. Grant Island is owned by John Bridges of Island RE. There is a house on it, but I don't think he has sewer or electricity and therefore can't sleep there. Does that count?

twins 11-23-2008 09:53 PM

Goose Egg
 
I believe that Bizer is incorrectly naming the island off Geneva Point "Goose Egg Rock Island". Goose Egg Rock is the submerged shoal marked by marker 12. There are two islands off Geneva Point. One is called Hartsock Island owned for many years by the Hartsock family and I forget the name of the other next to it (Bobs Island?). They are on the newer charts that are sitting up at the lake! I don't see it on Bizer's list.

Anyway, they both have 1 house on them. Grant Island is owned by John Bridges of Island RE. There is a house on it, but I don't think he has sewer or electricity and therefore can't sleep there. Does that count?

Island Life 12-01-2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twins (Post 84999)
Anyway, they both have 1 house on them. Grant Island is owned by John Bridges of Island RE. There is a house on it, but I don't think he has sewer or electricity and therefore can't sleep there. Does that count?

Take it from someone who has spent their entire life summering on an island with no sewer and no electricity, you can sleep in these houses. And sleep well! I would never trade it for a house with electricity (although a flush toilet and shower would be a welcomed luxury). Living without electric lights at night is sooooo relaxing.

fatlazyless 12-01-2008 11:41 AM

I know that I've seen some old outhouses, still in use, in Meredith. Been in use since probably the 1920's, and maybe earlier. Basically, only used in the warmer months and just set above a hole in the ground.

Occaisionally treated with powdered lime, and located at a tax-exempt summer camp, I wonder if that is still a building code approved use because it's an original from way back when?

chaseisland 12-01-2008 11:52 AM

chase island
 
Twenty-one (21) on Chase island. Farm Island has one (1) that can't be seen from the water, but if one does a little trespassing!!! Who me ???:rolleye1:

Grady223 12-01-2008 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Island Life (Post 85315)
Take it from someone who has spent their entire life summering on an island with no sewer and no electricity, you can sleep in these houses. And sleep well! I would never trade it for a house with electricity (although a flush toilet and shower would be a welcomed luxury). Living without electric lights at night is sooooo relaxing.

Island Life, Which island, do we have it on our list? Does it have only one house?

Senter Cove Guy 12-06-2008 02:47 AM

According To Tuftonboro Tax Records
 
Chip Island (West of Whortleberry) – 1
Farm Island – 1
Little Bear Island – 43
Little Cove Island -1
Little Whortleberry Island- 0
Merry Island – 0 (On same tax map (#12) where part of Whortleberry Island is detailed)
Tip Island – 1
Whortleberry Island – 27

hemlockpoint 12-06-2008 08:21 AM

another house
 
Hi could you add my house on Hemlock Point Island. It is the only one on the island.

Senter Cove Guy 12-07-2008 09:52 PM

According to Wolfeboro Tax Records
 
Blueberry – 1
Church – 0
Gate - 0
Harbour – 0
Harmony – 0
Jib – 0
Keel – 0
Keniston – 20
Ledge – Your current accounting shows 1. Tax records show 0. New house?
Littlest Mud – 1
Long Pine - 0
Melody – 15
Parker – Your current accounting shows 1. Tax records show 2.
Scavenger – 0
Shelter – 0
Spider – 1
Uppershore - 0

Grady223 12-30-2008 11:51 AM

The Islands
 
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Wow, Senter Cove Guy - nice job! Thanks!

Have been tied up with the Holidays so this is my first opportunity to get back to this.

Here is the latest compilation with all updates.

Kerk 12-31-2008 09:38 AM

Bruce,
 
Chase Island Out Houses ! Many years ago in November I gat stranded on way to cow and wind took me to Chase between Melvin and Chase. I then had a deperate need and found an open out House,. WOW what a relief. It was So clean and neat I still remember it. Thought of leaving a note but did not have paper and pen. I would be glad to have one as well kept!


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