Winnipesaukee Forum

Winnipesaukee Forum (https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/index.php)
-   General Discussion (https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   High Winni Water Level (https://www.winnipesaukee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28955)

LIforrelaxin 07-25-2023 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tis (Post 385838)
It looks like it went down overnight!

I am actually wondering if they slowed down the inflow into the lake..... Unfortunately the in feeds into Winnipesaukee are not monitored so it is hard to tell.... But I do believe there is some control, some of the in feed lakes that can be adjusted when needed......(Kanasakta, MerryMeeting, Waukewan, etc)...

Of course this may mean once the get the lake level back down, they will increase flows out of this lakes and the lake will rise a bit again.....

There is intertwined dance that has to go on to get all this water down stream...

codeman671 07-25-2023 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8gv (Post 385841)
Maybe the water was absorbed into the shore from all the wave action on Sunday. :eek:

It all absorbed into my lawn as it splashed over our wall.

In all seriousness, my neighbor on Bear is built extremely close to the water. The waves last week at one point were breaking over the sea wall and splashing her on her covered porch!

JayR 07-25-2023 11:47 AM

Water Level Control
 
I just look at some of these pictures and I think, DAM!

TiltonBB 07-25-2023 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin (Post 385837)
Looking this morning, the lake is down almost 2 tenths of an inch from the high point last week.... so roughly about 2.5 inches...... progress is being made, if we can stay ran free the lake should be in pretty good shape by the weekend....

I was weak on math when I got my GED! :)

Please explain how 2 tenths of an inch equates to 2.5 inches.

Answer soon as I want to apply this math in other areas!

winni83 07-25-2023 07:17 PM

I think what LIF was referring to was that a decrease in the observed lake level based on the state chart for the Wein3 station of 0.2 inches equates to about 2.5 inches. 0.2 x 12 = 2.4 inches

Slickcraft 07-25-2023 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winni83 (Post 385862)
I think what LIF was referring to was that a decrease in the observed lake level based on the state chart for the Wein3 station of 0.2 inches equates to about 2.5 inches. 0.2 x 12 = 2.4 inches

That would be 0.2 feet equates to ............

TheTimeTraveler 07-25-2023 07:44 PM

Forget the math. The lake has in fact declined in level today, Tuesday 7/25/23.

Easy, done!

mishman 07-25-2023 08:40 PM

We're at Oct. 1 cumulative rainfall already!
 
If I read the DES chart correctly, right now (July 25) if it stopped raining for two months and one week, we would back at average precipitation for the year on Oct. 1! In other words, to no one's surprise, we are WAY ahead on precipitation this year. Maybe we'll get a dry August and September but I doubt it unless the jet stream straitens itself out (not forecast to happen over the next ten days).

WinnisquamZ 07-25-2023 08:52 PM

Mother Nature always equals herself out. Agree. A dry August and September maybe in the forecast


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

LIforrelaxin 07-26-2023 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 385859)
I was weak on math when I got my GED! :)

Please explain how 2 tenths of an inch equates to 2.5 inches.

Answer soon as I want to apply this math in other areas!

So it is really easy to explain..10 tenths = 1ft = 12 inches......so 12 inches / 10 tenths = 1.2 inches per tenth....so when there is s 2 tenth drop from 504.9, to 504.7, 2 tenths x 1.2 inches per tenth = 2.4 inches ..... I round up a bit, because I think the actual drop was a bit more then 2 tenths.... so at that point I estimated 2.5 inches....

Today I will calculate again the high point looks like it was around 504.95 on July 18th.

Today the lake is around 504.69.

so .95 - .68 = .26 of a foot drop so that is 2.6 tenths X 1.2 inches per tenth = 3.12 inches

like wise you can do .26 of a foot X 12 inches per foot = 3.12 inches

Today's math lesson has been brought to you by the number 5 and the letter W.......

WinnisquamZ 07-26-2023 09:38 AM

Good stuff. And my eyes are telling me we dropped a bit on this lake. Have a good day


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

FlyingScot 07-26-2023 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WinnisquamZ (Post 385873)
Mother Nature always equals herself out. Agree. A dry August and September maybe in the forecast


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

Ummm...maybe...but her clock is very different than ours, she works over millennia. It's pretty clear from dozens (hundreds?) of sources that our environment is becoming warmer, wetter, and windier over the past several decades, and virtually everyone expects this to continue for the rest of our lifetimes. This is a real threat to the lake as these conditions increase nutrients and plant/algae growth

ITD 07-26-2023 11:00 AM

Clear as mud.

LoveLakeLife 07-26-2023 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ITD (Post 385894)
Clear as mud.

Don’t forget the Ummmm.


Sent from my iPhone using Winnipesaukee Forum mobile app

TiltonBB 07-26-2023 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIforrelaxin (Post 385837)
Looking this morning, the lake is down almost 2 tenths of an inch from the high point last week.... so roughly about 2.5 inches...... progress is being made, if we can stay ran free the lake should be in pretty good shape by the weekend....

I saw your explanation but I am still not sure you are right.


Didn't you mean the lake is down 2 tenths of a foot?

LIforrelaxin 07-26-2023 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiltonBB (Post 385929)
I saw your explanation but I am still not sure you are right.


Didn't you mean the lake is down 2 tenths of a foot?

Yes, I missed that.... I have corrected the original post......

John Mercier 07-26-2023 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 385893)
Ummm...maybe...but her clock is very different than ours, she works over millennia. It's pretty clear from dozens (hundreds?) of sources that our environment is becoming warmer, wetter, and windier over the past several decades, and virtually everyone expects this to continue for the rest of our lifetimes. This is a real threat to the lake as these conditions increase nutrients and plant/algae growth

At least it is a short enough timeline to check the hypothesis.
August and September will come and go quickly, and hard data on precipitation in relation to the average will be known.

TheTimeTraveler 07-26-2023 08:01 PM

So here is a hypothetical question for everyone;

We all received record amounts of rain in June and July. If this were fall as snow during the winter then how much snow would approximately this equate to ?

I think we received somewhere between 8 and 12 inches so I assume it would be a very high snowfall amount......

Anyone have any idea ?

garysanfran 07-26-2023 08:44 PM

Isn't, given average moisture content, 10" of snow per 1" of water?

Sue Doe-Nym 07-26-2023 09:35 PM

4-5 inches of wet snow or 15 inches of powdery snow per 1 inch of rain, according to my pal, Google

garysanfran 07-26-2023 10:00 PM

I believe my childhood memories fall right in the middle of that Sue.

Thank you.

ApS 07-27-2023 05:22 AM

GREENland--The Island Owned by Denmark?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingScot (Post 385893)
Ummm...maybe...but her clock is very different than ours, she works over millennia. It's pretty clear from dozens (hundreds?) of sources that our environment is becoming warmer, wetter, and windier over the past several decades, and virtually everyone expects this to continue for the rest of our lifetimes. This is a real threat to the lake as these conditions increase nutrients and plant/algae growth

Does this mean that The New York Times will be referring to GREENland as GREENland? :confused:

LIforrelaxin 07-27-2023 09:28 AM

So this morning I checked the DES website and decided to see how fast the lake is going down.... in 24 hours the lake dropped 0.06 ft. or about 3/4 of an inch.....

As of this morning they are not stating any changes to the release rates.....
so with the lake at 504.63 and full pool at 504.32, we still need to loose about .3 feet or 3.6 inches.... which at the current rate will take about 5 days....

of course if they change the outflow or we get another big rainstorm that thought will go right out the door.....

ApS 08-05-2023 05:11 PM

Measure Twice...
 
From the bottom of my piling dock, the lake has dropped about 6 inches.

Sunning at the end of my dock, an unseen boat still mamaged to make a wake that washed over the entire length of the dock! :eek:

Later, I watched an oversized boat approach a nearby (and new) hard-covered dock. I asked myself, "Isn't that skipper going to lose his radar dome?"

"Bonk!" answered my question. :look:

LIforrelaxin 08-07-2023 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApS (Post 386309)

Later, I watched an oversized boat approach a nearby (and new) hard-covered dock. I asked myself, "Isn't that skipper going to lose his radar dome?"

"Bonk!" answered my question. :look:

That sounds expensive, let alone the cost of having a "Boat House".....

Biggd 08-07-2023 12:00 PM

I'm on Waukewan and the lake went up 6" from Friday nights monsoons but I noticed Winni was lower! I'm not sure if they slowed the rate of flow at Mill Falls?

phoenix 08-09-2023 02:28 PM

The water level if definitely coming down as my cross railings on the dock are partially out of the water

ishoot308 08-09-2023 06:26 PM

2” Low
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix (Post 386448)
The water level if definitely coming down as my cross railings on the dock are partially out of the water

It appears, at least at my dock to be 2” BELOW full lake…

Dan

Descant 08-09-2023 06:34 PM

I hope the level will now drop slowly so we can boat well into the fall. Don't you just hate it when all those rocks start growing bigger right after Labor Day?

LIforrelaxin 08-10-2023 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Descant (Post 386453)
I hope the level will now drop slowly so we can boat well into the fall. Don't you just hate it when all those rocks start growing bigger right after Labor Day?

That would be nice wouldn't it?
Right now they still have the dam releasing ~1250 cfs, which is enough to keep the lake dropping if we don't have more rain...
If I look at the lake level it is not dropping as fast as it was last week.... but it is droping a little
What this says to me is they are trying to find the balance now, so that they can keep the lake steady, by matching the incoming water to the out going water......
I am sure the folks down stream want to see their lakes go down as well.....

jeffk 08-12-2023 05:51 PM

If you look at the Bizer Lake Level charts you can see that the Winni water level is drawn down beginning in mid July through mid October. Why? To prepare Winni to be able to absorb the spring melt and typical spring rains and act as a buffer for downstream. Why start so early? Because it takes a long time to draw down Winni 15 inches without causing addition downstream flooding. Plus it gives more time to manage unusual amounts of rain.

So the dam management people are now thinking of a slow and steady drawdown, not keeping it at a high level.

garysanfran 08-12-2023 06:54 PM

The Weirs Channel is like a rushing river.

chachee52 08-13-2023 08:06 AM

I'm a little surprised that we haven't heard much about people running into the Witches with the water so high this summer.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:03 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.