also
 

even though it was stupid, and reckless and dangerous... you have to admit, when something "new" gets done here, so long as no one was hurt, its kind of funny! and has alot of attention...

It made Youtube? What do I search to see it?

Skimming
 

As a point of clarification, a snowmobile does not meet the legal definition of a watercraft, even if an attempt is made to operate as one. Therefore boating regulations like wake, speed and registration do not apply.

It is illegal in NH to knowingly operate a snowmobile across open water.


215-C:7 Operation on Open Water Prohibited. – No person shall knowingly operate a snowmobile on open water, also known as skimming. In this section, "open water'' means any area of an inland water body that is free of ice and snow. This section shall not apply to events as permitted pursuant to RSA 215-C:50.


Finally, depending on circumstances authorities can bring additional pertinent charges. In this case the charge of Reckless Conduct (RSA 631:3) was brought, which is a misdemeanor offense.

Separately, the second skimmer has also now been arrested. And as this news account reveals, a thorough multiagency investigation led to the issuance of a complaint & warrant that resulted in arrest. Sorry, there was no "conspiracy" or "favors" being tendered here, as needlessly speculated above. Just another case of the wheels of justice making their necessary, albeit it sometimes slow, turns!

The story of the second arrest can be read at the Citizen HERE...

Good Kid Gets A Bad Reputation
 

I Am Friends With One Of The "boneheads" That Went Across The Lake On July 4th. It Is Sad To See People Calling A Kid Who Is A Great Student, Honest Citizen, Hard Worker, And A Bright Young Man, A Idiot Or Saying He Has Bad Morals Or Judgement. For Those Who Think Alcohol Was Involved, Youre Wrong. No Alcohol Was Involved. He Does Not Drink. His Name Was Not Published In A Few Newspaper Articles Because He Was Very Cooperative With The Whole Thing And The People That Held His Name, Thought He Was A Good Kid Probably. He Doesnt Know Anyone. This Is A Hobby. Unlike Most People On This Forum, He Has A Life. Im Not Going To Attack The People In This Forum, Like They Attacked Him, Because All That Does Is Weaken My Arguement. Insulting People In An Arguement Only Means You Dont Have Enough Facts To Prove Your Point And You Need To Turn The Arguement Around So It Seems More Appealing To Everyone You Are Speeking To. I Would Like People To Meet This Young Man Before They Call Him An Idiot Or Bonehead. You Would Think The Opposite If You Sat Down And Talked With Him For A Few Minutes. He Has Not Got In Trouble Before And The Only Thing On His Record Are A Few Tickets. Give Him A Break. You Jump On Him Like You Would Jump On Someone Stealing Things Around Town, Or Breaking Into Business And Stealing Stuff. Not Everyone Agrees On This Matter And Plenty Of People Think It Was Exciting And A Neat Thing. He Didnt Put Anyone Else In Danger And Not One Got Hurt, No One Could Get Hurt. And No Wake Discussions And Watercraft Registrations Are Obserd. That Has Nothing To Do With This And Everyone Talking About It Needs To Take A Hike. He Only Got A Skimming Fine And Unregistered Sled Fine. No Big Deal. People Saying He Will Face Severe Charges Are Retarted. Skimming Only Became Illegal A Few Years Ago Because Fish And Game Dept. Is Running Out Of Funding And They Saw An Oppertunity To Get Money By Ticketing People With Things That Are Popular. Live Free Or Die. Thats This States Motto, Not Pass Judgement And Sit At Our Computers At Midnight Because We Have Nothing Else To Do, And Make Fun Of Popular, Well Liked Poeple. The People Who Think It Is Wrong Or These People Who Do This Are Boneheads, Are Just Tree Huggers. And To Say They Have No Respect For The Lake Is Obserd. Boats Put Out More Polution Than Snowmobiles. People Need To Get The Facts Straight. He Did Not Get Arrested, Nor Could He. It Is A Ticketable Offense, Therefore It Must Not Be A Big Deal. Get Over It And Get A Life. Stop Sitting Around Looking For Things To Whine About.

No Arrest
 

Oh And The Kid Didnt Get Arrested Nor Did He Run Away. He Talked To The Police 20 Minutes Later. He Was There The Whole Time And They Knew Who Did It Minutes Later. No Warrants Got Issued And He Got 2 Tickets A Day Later. The End Of It. Nothing Else Will Come Of It And It Is Over With. THE LADY WHO WROTE THAT ARTICLE DIDNT EVEN TALK TO THE KID. SHE GOT FACTS FROM SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY WRONG. PEOPLE SHOULD MAKE SURE WHAT THEY WRITE IS CORRECT BEFORE THEY PUBLISH IT. THERE WILL BE A SECOND ARTICLE FROM THIS LADY CORRECTING THE MANY MISTAKES IN IT. YOU WILL SEE IT SOON AND IT WIKLL HAVE GOOD INFO THE SECOND TIME AROUND

Capping the first letter of every word makes for difficult reading. Capping every letter is shouting. Add in the spelling errors and the message starts to lose effectiveness.

Playmate of yours?

Unbelievable!
 

This one statement alone boggles the imagination!

Skimming is illegal because of the horrific deaths that have occured over the last decade due to this idiotic practice, and the public outcry to condemn an activity that not only can be deadly to the fool practicing it, but needlessly places rescue personnel and even helpful citizens in harm's way attempting to effect rescue.

As a Fish & Game certified snowmobile safety instructor, I always show the very disturbing video taken several seasons ago along Lake Winnipesukee that shows an individual as he drowns while attempting to skim open water.

No, skimming is not "popular" as the vast majority of mature and reasonable sledders realize just what a stupid and dangerous stunt it can be. It is truly ashame that you and your friend are unable to comprehend the foolishness of an activity that gains you nothing, but can easily cost you or someone else their life....:(

The kid may have been smart, nice, popular, or whatever you may want to label him, pontiac. BUT...skimming is illegal, and you cannot argue with the fact that he broke the law. Which to me makes him a bonehead. He had a serious lapse in judgement. He needs to pick a new hobby.

Sure What He Did Was Wrong
 

Sure what he did might now be labeled illegal, but it is not grounds to attack someones character or label someone. If you think about it, it is kinda funny that such a small thing could get so many people so flustered. when they made that law, i realy think they were talking about it occuring in the winter. this kid is very experienced with this. it is actually a sport, called watercross. events are held in a lot of places and are very popular. the only reason why he didnt make it the last 35 feet is becasue he ran out of gas. stupid mistake. im sure next time he does it he will put more gas in. it isnt the first time he did it and it wont be the last, im assuming! as for most people who disagree with my view point, skimming is just like speeding. most people do it, it just happens that this time he got caught. it doesnt make you a bad person, you just need to make sure you perform the act in a safer less populated area next time, that way no one can get you in trouble or argue whether it is correct or not.

Might Make You Mad As Well
 

this might also make people mad as well, thats why im sharing it with the old folks of this forum. may people, along with the young adult that is being talked about, build snowmobile purposely for this and this only. TO GO ACROSS OPEN WATER. lol get over it. it is fun and no 1, not even the law officials will stop these kids. have fun trying, it will get you nowhere.

You wouldn't be this 'kid', would you?? :laugh:

Lets see here,

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I see what you mean about not attacking people on this forum.:emb:

Amen Skip. I lost one of my very best friends when we UNINTENTIONALLY rode into water one night. Changed a lot of lives that night. :(

Your comment is too vague/broad to even be argued here, but for it to be true it would probably also be dependent on the snowmobile being kept from sinking... In the case of your mensa-candidate friend here, this probably isn't a good statistic to try to use to support your argument.

Running a red light is a ticketable offense. Running a red light, and running over and killing someone is a little more severe. Continued skimming COULD very likely lead your friend to receive a summons instead of a ticket.

A snowmobile that is skimming across the water does not afford the operator a great deal of control and maneuverability. The activity itself has a high degree of probability of injury for both the operator and various bystanders. I prefer not to pass laws that would reduce the yearly Darwin Awards candidates, but it's probably not a good idea for people to go skimming across public land areas and waterways where more sane people are out and about enjoying themselves.

If your friend was taking a break from filling out his Harvard application and testing his skimming skills across a private pond or waterbody in his backyard, I doubt many people would care (or, those that did would definitely need a new hobby). But this case is a little different.

A lot of people get killed hang gliding,base jumping,motorcross and other risky sports and no one makes a peep.If someone wants to risk his/her life for a thrill ,I guess that is their business as long as it does not endanger others.My only objection is that,in the winter time,skimmers leave tracks leading from snow to open water which could fool someone who doesn't know the area.Many people (myself included) follow tracks and trails especially at night in an unfamiliar area.
Would have been funnier if he'd pulled it off and disappeared....but he ran out of gas.......not too sma-h-h-h-t.....as the locals would say.

Clearly you (or he depending:laugh: ) was obviously not that good at it... Maybe a different past time may be in order.

Being a past "skimmer" myself, looking back on it now in my thirties with a wife, kids, a company to run and responsiblities it was not the smartest thing to do. Quite frankly, just plain dumb. This does not even account the dangers that othres are put in to pull your sorry azz out when you don't make it. You (or your friend) will grow up some day.

didn't you see the sign on this post "DON'T FEED THE TROLL" :laugh:

Smart enough to cross open water on a sled, but not smart enough to use enough gas. Brilliant. He must be wicked smaht.
And no, most people do NOT skim. Most people are smart enough to avoid the open water on a sled. I have been riding for over 10 years, with thousands of miles under my belt, and I have never crossed open water. Not once. But I guess I am not most people, right?
OK hero. Have fun on the open water. Next time, make sure you and your buddy have enough gas.
Hey, I have an idea...how about having all this fun at an actual watercross event? I will look for you guys at Petersons Farm next October.

Perhaps a wise idea. At least then when (if?) you sink, there'll be somebody standing by to rescue you.

http://www.nipmucktrailriders.com/events.html

http://www.nipmucktrailriders.com/images/image007.jpg

Wouldn't buying a sea-doo work better.....it wouldn't sink????

You sir, are a genious! ;)

running out of gas
 

oh and there is a reason he put a small amount of gas in his sled. he figured if he did sink he didnt want the lake water to ruin the gas in his sled. he wasnt worried about polution of the lake, but rather than ruining a half of a thank of gas. i sit here and laugh at how mad ppl get over this stuff, he will be riding a black 03 edge x at the farm if you see him, make sure you introduce yourself. he will probably enjoy chatting with you about how you think skimming is so bad and how it could put soooo many innocent bystanders in grave danger. just make sure the kids are home and the wife is safe. you wouldnt want them getting hurt while being around such a dangerous event.

take a look
 

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f

you might think the first few are pretty interesting. you might see some familiar view of the lake

It is now confirmed, you (and him if he truly is someone else) are a flaming idiot!

Darwin's Law...
 

...must be on some kind of delay.:rolleye1:

You and your buddy need to practice a sentence that will give you lifelong support: "Do you want fries with that?"

At the first Wolfeboro forum (www.wolfeboroonline.com) now defunct, there was a long discussion about skimming before the Governor signed the law against it. This Dude wrote there against the law, saying, "I'm going to skim the way I always have". (Reminiscent of another phrase repeated here).

And why do I always think of "It's Miller Time" when this child gets rescued following these performances....over and over again?

Economics are correct FLL
 

But where's the thrill in that?:laugh:

Primarily because you're barely more mature than they are! You're a very boorish, immature guy that will always believe what you do is far less offensive than everyone you dislike. In the end, people probably prefer the skimmers to you.

'Skimmer' does not like label of 'stupid'
 

:laugh:

http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll...186/-1/CITIZEN

As Forrest Gump would say!
 

"Stupid is as stupid does."

Perhaps skimming is not stupid but it sure is dumb!

That must be the "new and improved" article the other pro-skimmer fool was referring to.

Citizen
 

The article's author neglected that he drove in to private property (Meredith Moorings Condo Association), put sled on pavement, drove snow machine down the grass embankment to more grass, crossed the private beach; he had to have gained speed! Proceeding on to Lake. Just for starters, I'd call it trespassing.

Where's the authority of court system to remove his license or certificate to drive a "boat" or a snow machine?

If nobody wants it called stupid or dumb, it certainly is extremely irresponsible behavior, and avoids all common sense of activity on a body of water. $360 is a very small price to pay. Sounds like we will see "copy cat" activities!

What's the next stunt? Or dare? Stupid or Dumb? Or irresponsible activity? Take a pair of water skis and slide down the winter ski jump at Gunstock, or drive an Indy Race Car up Mount Washington Auto Road?

Been lurking around and observing, both informed & educated comments, as well as uninformed and uneducated comments for a while, long before this thread stated!

wow
 

I can't even respond to this one....its too easy and it would take me till midnight to write it all.

skimming ghost
 

could it be they too where looking for the ghost of skimming that lives in brookhusrt village..

maybe
 

I have a friend in Atkinson, who used to do this all the time (skimming, I guess it is called) on Big Island Pond. He was really into it, and I believe it is a sport.
While Pontiac 464's long explanation tries to take all the negative connotation associated with this event away from the skimmer (which I disagree with), I do agree with much of what he says. He should not be completely obsolved of all wrong doing, but truly, it is not the end of the earth. In fact, as far as I can see (although I believe skimming was recently declared illegal, not sure though) the only thing he is guilty of is violating the no wake zone. That's it.
This trespassing accusation??? Yeah, OK, maybe, but come on.
GTO just disregarding the post, and isinuating that, given the time, he/she could take it apart...I'm not sure.
The guy used the lake in a way YOU did not care for. Does not really make it dangerous or wrong. Do you know how many boaters on weekends have no clue how to read a chart, and have no idea about the law of safe passage, or what a stand on vessel is (hint:not a jet ski). There are many dangers out there. While I would agree that skimming is probably not the best idea when the lake is busy, it is a real, actual sport.
It's funny...reading all the threads on this board about speed limits, and canoes, and whatever...It's like "if I don't agree with how you want to use the lake, you are wrong". There is plenty of water out there, people.
How does it go?? Live free or...

To the best of my knowledge, and I certainly could be wrong on this because I don't own or operate a snowmobile, a certificate program is recommended but not required for a snowmobile...and since a snowmobile is not a boat no boating certificate is required. So there is no authority to remove any certificate to operate a snowmobile or boat.
Yep, it was stupid, yep it was dumb. It is the 21st Century version of what our parents and grandparents called our stunts stupid and dumb. They have more money and toys than we did back then. Will we see copycats? You betch your bippy! (Rowan and Martin for those who don't know)

OK...Have it your way
 

OK, I won't call him a bonehead. But I will suggest that he practice his adventures after dark. People with heads made of wax need to stay out of the hot sun.

Just a question. If, as adults, we continue to excuse irresponsible behavior, how do young adults learn responsibility?

I don't condone or excuse it, it was stupid and dangerous and they should face the consequences. However, I understand it. I think there's a difference.

some people
 

some people have nothing better to do than bash people on this forum for doing the things they like to do in their own spare time. im sure all the 80 year olds never did anything that made other people mad, when you were young. im sure they bashed you too.