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gonetoolong
01-08-2011, 03:12 PM
boiled or steamed? What brand? Are you picky about mustard? What do you like on it? Natural casing? My taste is pretty simple, grilled or steamed and a little relish, what do you like?

OK, for those of you who like cheese, are you talking about grated cheese or the melted velveeta/chedar out of a squeeze bottle?

robmac
01-08-2011, 03:21 PM
I'll take a Pearls all beef dog steamed in beer with mustard relish and onion and a cold beer,summer time the same but grilled. Sounds good for todays games.

Dog's Ear
01-08-2011, 03:56 PM
I'll take steamed except for the summer and then I like them grilled REALLY well done. A little mustard a little relish......Yum. I don't care what anyone says about hot dogs - I just love them! I like most but natural casing Kayem are my favorite.

RLW
01-08-2011, 04:05 PM
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Chris Exley
01-08-2011, 04:10 PM
Sabrettes All Beef

Dietz and Watson 1/4 pounder

7-11 Bahama Mamma (technically a sausage)

Ball Park Beef franks.

Grilled are always best, but love steamed (especially at Citizen's Bank Park rooting for the Phillies).

Not a big mustard or ketchup person. Love with Cheese/Chilli/onions. Has to be a nice soft roll.

jkjoshuatree
01-08-2011, 04:12 PM
I'll take a Pearls all beef dog steamed in beer with mustard relish and onion and a cold beer,summer time the same but grilled. Sounds good for todays games.

Onions on hot dogs give them a nice kick!!

ishoot308
01-08-2011, 04:44 PM
Schonlands / Kayem all beef natural casing are great dogs! Grilled for me please with mustard (regular French's yellow mustard not that "poopon" stuff!!), relish and cut up onions and a dash of celery salt.

Dam I'm hungry for one now!! :)

Rose
01-08-2011, 04:56 PM
Nathan's, grilled, ketchup and poopon, or chili,cheese and onions. :liplick:

upthesaukee
01-08-2011, 05:30 PM
Rose, no poopon my hotdogs!!!!!, but avez-vous le grey poupon????? :D

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Schonlands natural casing, grilled, onion, ketchup, red pepper relish or picalilli, grilled buns opening at the top....oh, hurry up spring!

tis
01-08-2011, 05:59 PM
I loved the old Schonland's -never ate any other hotdog. But now i like the Kayems which as it says on the box is the OLD schonland recipe. I like honey mustard, onions, no relish. I LOVE hotdogs (well, certain hotdogs) but hate to think what they are made of.

gravy boat
01-08-2011, 06:00 PM
All beef franks, steamed...from a street vendor...sauerkraut, celery salt and a little mustard on the side to dip on occasion.
Or...grilled well on the grill...spicy mustard, ketchup, relish...on a soft frankfurter roll that sticks to the roof of my mouth after I take a big bite. ;-)

phoenix
01-08-2011, 06:21 PM
tough to beat a good Nathan's at an airport with mustard and relish

CGI3
01-08-2011, 06:54 PM
Nathans, with chopped onions and mustard..Yum Yum!!

Argie's Wife
01-08-2011, 07:00 PM
Nathan's, steams or grilled, are my fav with Bookman's mustard, ketchup, pickalilly relish, and celery salt...

I also like red hot dogs - we usually get them from Danis Market in Pittsfield...

Jonas Pilot
01-08-2011, 08:16 PM
Yankee franks! Um, Ummm.

Rose
01-08-2011, 09:40 PM
Rose, no poopon my hotdogs!!!!!, but avez-vous le grey poupon????? :D

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

Schonlands natural casing, grilled, onion, ketchup, red pepper relish or picalilli, grilled buns opening at the top....oh, hurry up spring!

Just using ishoot308's terminology!

john60ri
01-08-2011, 10:14 PM
The magnificent New York System Hot Weiner, on a steamed bun, with ground beef sauce, chopped onions, tangy yellow mustard, and a sprinkle of celery salt.

SAMIAM
01-09-2011, 09:57 AM
Another vote for Schonland's.....or any other all beef natural casing ....very important because they "snap" when you bite into them....the others feel kind of soggy in your mouth.
Also....don't believe the scary stories about how they don't use ears, lips,
( . )'s or floor scrapings. All the plants are USDA inspected and use approved cuts of beef, pork and poultry........Can't believe some of the stories out there.

robmac
01-09-2011, 10:14 AM
John60ri just reminded me of the dogs we used to get in Plattsburg NY,I think they called them " Michigans " with the beef sauce onion and mustard. Almost time to fire up the steamer and the popcorn cart for game time.

sa meredith
01-09-2011, 10:31 AM
For anyone who might be from Souther NH or the Merrimack Valley (specifically Methuen/Lawrence) the all time best Hog Dog place...in my opinion...closed it's doors after 81 years...yes, that's right, 81 years...1929....
Lawton Hot Dogs is no more. Foot longs (only type available) deep fried, in oil. Unreal. For many years, is was my once a week lunch place...every Thursday. But no more. On the last day, the line was over 100 people long all day.
People came from 25/30 miles regularly for their dogs and fries. Not a restaurant, for anyone who might not know...but a building similar to a very small diner. No seats...just a hot dog stand. Closed for good 12/31/2010.
http://www.hotdogshops.com/images/lawtons1.jpg

robmac
01-09-2011, 10:34 AM
Those were great hotdogs and Lawtons will be missed.

webmaster
01-09-2011, 10:40 AM
The magnificent New York System Hot Weiner, on a steamed bun, with ground beef sauce, chopped onions, tangy yellow mustard, and a sprinkle of celery salt.I'll take 4 "all the way"!

When I did work in Providence we'd order 50 for lunch. There's nothing like them anywhere else.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_wiener):
The New York System wiener is a staple of the food culture of Rhode Island. It is typically made from a small, thin frankfurter made of veal and pork, thus giving it a different taste from a traditional hot dog made of beef. Once placed in a steamed bun, the wiener is topped with a meat sauce seasoned with a myriad of spices like cumin, paprika, chili powder and allspice, which is itself covered in finely chopped onions, celery salt and yellow mustard.

Preparation

The traditional New York System preparation has the cook balancing as many as dozens of buns along his forearm and applying the toppings with his free hand, a method called "up the arm." Because of their size, patrons will often order three or four wieners at once. Wieners with all of the standard toppings are ordered "all the way."

http://www.amazingribs.com/images/hot_dogs/olneyville2.jpg

gonetoolong
01-09-2011, 10:42 AM
I think I read an article recently that Lawtons had re-opened! I guess there were engineering concerns with their location by the river bank and I believe that it has been fixed and they are open again. My dad used to go there in the 1930's as a kid & still talked about it well into his 80's. They referred to it, tounge in cheek, as Lawton's by the Sea.

WOW, You're right, they have closed, what a shame!

robmac
01-09-2011, 10:54 AM
It's true they are back open,found an article online that said repairs to the canal wall took longer than expected but Lawtons was to reopen at Thanksgiving.

Pepper
01-09-2011, 10:55 AM
My absolute, all-time-ever favorite way to enjoy a hot dog...
Skyline style! I'll have a cheese coney and a four-way with beans, please.

http://www.skylinechili.com/signature.php

If you've ever been to Cincinnati, chances are you've been to a Skyline location at least once. :D

GsChinadoll
01-09-2011, 10:59 AM
Nathan's or Sabrette's or Hebrew Nationals with hot dog mustard and chopped onions if you got em!:)

gonetoolong
01-09-2011, 11:07 AM
Got their phone number & called. There was no answer but it also wasn't disconnected so that's a good sign!

sa meredith
01-09-2011, 11:32 AM
It's true they are back open,found an article online that said repairs to the canal wall took longer than expected but Lawtons was to reopen at Thanksgiving.

Sorry guys...but you're wrong. When you "google" things, you need to check the dates of the article.
Lawton's closed for a month this past year, because they thought the building was falling into the canal. And, they then re opened to huge lines of customers. But, they did not renew their lease which expired on 12/31/2010...and are now closed for good. Done, gone, finished. I had my last dog/fries/chicken barb on 12/29. Waited 45 minutes, but glad I did it.

gonetoolong
01-09-2011, 11:38 AM
sorry to see it go...

kauriel
01-09-2011, 05:51 PM
At home I enjoy a grilled market basket natural casing hot dog with a grilled bun. While out I like Papa Ginos grilled footlong hotdog. I eat them plain or with some mac & cheese on top!

Bigstan
01-09-2011, 09:10 PM
Grilled till well done, with grilled onions & jalapenos, chopped pickles and wasabi mustard. Also with a little sauerkraut....if it ain't loaded it isn't a dog.

Chili is a good concept, but then things become messy....

dpg
01-10-2011, 07:33 AM
Surprising that I'm the first to mention they must be "bun size" and not the short ones that are dwarfed by the roll. Ball Parks are pretty good on the grill. All beef...

Happy Gourmand
01-10-2011, 08:45 AM
Kayem/Schondland's....grilled...on a toasted roll with REAL mustard...the yellow stuff LOL...relish and some celery salt.... I'll take 3 please :D:D

Argie's Wife
01-10-2011, 10:34 AM
My absolute, all-time-ever favorite way to enjoy a hot dog...
Skyline style! I'll have a cheese coney and a four-way with beans, please.

http://www.skylinechili.com/signature.php

If you've ever been to Cincinnati, chances are you've been to a Skyline location at least once. :D

Used to live just outside of Cinci and never could get used to Cinci-style chili with the cinnamon in it... it was just weird. Not bad. Just. Too. Strange. ;):)

Jonas Pilot
01-10-2011, 11:37 AM
... "Neight-inns"! Nathan's, Westchester NY, is the best big hotdog joint I've ever been to. It was where I first flirted with my wife almost 30 years ago. I like the Nathan's in New York City too but I think Westchester has more personality and definitely easier to get to. Savin Rock in coastal Connecticut had some good stands. There were dozens of tiny places from East Haven to Norwalk most of them ,I think, serving Sabretts. The "Greeks", I believe in Stratford, was my favorite small hotdog joint. It was amazing to watch how fast they were able to get the dogs out adding mustard relish and onions in seconds. Just watching them go was worth the price of the frank.

http://nathansfamous.com/PageFetch/

ghfromaltonbay
01-10-2011, 12:24 PM
Thumann's hot dogs are natural casing dogs that really snap when you bite into them. The best place for these here in NJ is Hiram's (about 1/2 mile south of the George Washington Bridge) in Fort Lee, NJ. They deep fry the dogs until the skin splits open. This place has been around since the late 1920's -- my grandparents went there before they married in 1930! An order of "21" which translates as 2 dogs and 1 order of fries is just heaven. Some add sauerkraut, but I just add a little spicy gray mustard. Ah, it's making hungry as I'm typing this. Thumann's even broil up nicely at home in the toaster oven. Yum.............

joey2665
01-10-2011, 12:37 PM
... "Neight-inns"! Nathan's, Westchester NY, is the best big hotdog joint I've ever been to. It was where I first flirted with my wife almost 30 years ago. I like the Nathan's in New York City too but I think Westchester has more personality and definitely easier to get to. Savin Rock in coastal Connecticut had some good stands. There were dozens of tiny places from East Haven to Norwalk most of them ,I think, serving Sabretts. The "Greeks", I believe in Stratford, was my favorite small hotdog joint. It was amazing to watch how fast they were able to get the dogs out adding mustard relish and onions in seconds. Just watching them go was worth the price of the frank.

http://nathansfamous.com/PageFetch/


I am casting a vote for Nathan's also, however mine is for the Original in "Coney Island" and their second location in Oceanside , LI. I worked in Coney Island for six years (went ther at least twice a week for lunch) and lived in Oceanside for over 30 so I am very biased.

For many years the Oceanside location had a small amusement park much like Coney Island as a kid we went there on Saturday afternoons and they had movies and puppet shows you would watch while eating lunch and then went on the rides outside.


2 Well Done Dogs, Large Fies and an Orange Drink. Could go for it right now.

Happy Gourmand
01-10-2011, 01:16 PM
..that nobody has mentioned Sully's on Castle Island in South Boston. I used to frequent that place when I worked in town some years ago!

SIKSUKR
01-11-2011, 10:45 AM
Having purchased all raw materials and formulated all Schonland products for many years, I know my hot dogs. Beef, pork, and veal made the best frankfurt in our opinion. Beef fat is not very palatable so the fat portion was mostly pork. Beef has a very good proien for emulsifying so the lean portion was from beef. There is no comparison for me as natural casing is by far the choice. We sold Schonland to Labatt Beer before it was sold to Kayam. I still worked for Kayam briefly before moving on. Kayam changed the formula of the Schonland frank and I no longer like them as much as the old. They contain communuted chicken which is lean but not a pretty sight. It looks like orange mud. Their Kayam brand dog is actually better and I now buy those. Funny thing is that the Schonland brand is priced 50 cents a pound more here in the Manchester area. Buy the Kayam. Old Neighborhood makes a pretty good Natural Casing also but I'm partial to Kayem's spices. It still comes down to a personel choice like most things. I had 2 last night.

quagmire
01-11-2011, 11:31 AM
Hands down the best tasting dog I ever had. I had them in the Chicago area and not Chicago style. Just mustard and raw onions. I hear tell of a place in Weymouth Ma that serves them. Road trip. http://www.windycityeats.com/

phoenix
01-11-2011, 11:40 AM
actually Costco has a great dog with a drink for $1.50

Seeker
01-11-2011, 12:00 PM
My fav used to be Maple Leaf natural casing franks when you could get them.

Now for normal size it's Kayem natural casings steamed in beer with a little chopped onion, celery salt and yellow mustard.

For a LARGE dog that won't fit in a normal roll you can't beat Pearl brand natural casings. Again, steam them then slice lengthwise and place the 2 halves between 2 slices of rye bread with mustard and celery salt.

SIKSUKR - Did you know Tony M? The M in Kayem. We used to eat sausages on his 33' Egg Harbor in Beverly.

tis
01-11-2011, 01:08 PM
Having purchased all raw materials and formulated all Schonland products for many years, I know my hot dogs. Beef, pork, and veal made the best frankfurt in our opinion. Beef fat is not very palatable so the fat portion was mostly pork. Beef has a very good proien for emulsifying so the lean portion was from beef. There is no comparison for me as natural casing is by far the choice. We sold Schonland to Labatt Beer before it was sold to Kayam. I still worked for Kayam briefly before moving on. Kayam changed the formula of the Schonland frank and I no longer like them as much as the old. They contain communuted chicken which is lean but not a pretty sight. It looks like orange mud. Their Kayam brand dog is actually better and I now buy those. Funny thing is that the Schonland brand is priced 50 cents a pound more here in the Manchester area. Buy the Kayam. Old Neighborhood makes a pretty good Natural Casing also but I'm partial to Kayem's spices. It still comes down to a personel choice like most things. I had 2 last night.

Wow! So I can thank you for my favorite hot dogs! THe Kayams that you eat are the ones that say on the box, the old Schonland's formula? Those are the ones I like. Thanks for telling us all that.

Rusty
01-11-2011, 02:35 PM
Having purchased all raw materials and formulated all Schonland products for many years, I know my hot dogs. Beef, pork, and veal made the best frankfurt in our opinion. Beef fat is not very palatable so the fat portion was mostly pork. Beef has a very good proien for emulsifying so the lean portion was from beef. There is no comparison for me as natural casing is by far the choice. We sold Schonland to Labatt Beer before it was sold to Kayam. I still worked for Kayam briefly before moving on. Kayam changed the formula of the Schonland frank and I no longer like them as much as the old. They contain communuted chicken which is lean but not a pretty sight. It looks like orange mud. Their Kayam brand dog is actually better and I now buy those. Funny thing is that the Schonland brand is priced 50 cents a pound more here in the Manchester area. Buy the Kayam. Old Neighborhood makes a pretty good Natural Casing also but I'm partial to Kayem's spices. It still comes down to a personel choice like most things. I had 2 last night.

So if I buy some Kayem Natural Casing Franks with the Schonland's recipe, there will be some comminuted chicken in them?

But if I buy Kayem Old Tyme Natural Casing Franks (beef or Pork) there won’t be any comminuted chicken in them?

ishoot308
01-11-2011, 02:52 PM
They sell the Kayem natural casing hot dogs at Sam's Club in the big bunch box for cheap money!!

Dan

Argie's Wife
01-11-2011, 03:19 PM
So if I buy some Kayem Natural Casing Franks with the Schonland's recipe, there will be some comminuted chicken in them?

But if I buy Kayem Old Tyme Natural Casing Franks (beef or Pork) there won’t be any comminuted chicken in them?

:offtopic:

Hey Rusty... we're a pretty laid back group here and just so you know, you may need to learn to overlook some of the errors of the posters here. People don't like having every little error pointed out to them after a while and I've seen you do posts like this one on other threads; we're here to have fun and share info, and our love for the Lakes Region, if you know what I mean.

Peace.
:)

Rusty
01-11-2011, 03:37 PM
:offtopic:

Hey Rusty... we're a pretty laid back group here and just so you know, you may need to learn to overlook some of the errors of the posters here. People don't like having every little error pointed out to them after a while and I've seen you do posts like this one on other threads; we're here to have fun and share info, and our love for the Lakes Region, if you know what I mean.

Peace.
:)

I was just wondering if Kayem Old Tyme Natural Casing Franks (beef or Pork) had comminuted chicken in them.
SIKSUKR said that Kayem Natural Casing Franks with the Schonland's recipe has comminuted chicken in them.

I pointed out the spelling to make sure that I got the words right. I had to lookup both words to make sure. When I saw commnuted chicken it confused me. Also there could be a hot dog maker by the name of Kayam.

I wasn't trying to be a trouble maker. It doesn't take much to confuse me.
I'll try to do better as long as I can understand the post.

MAXUM
01-11-2011, 03:38 PM
Schonlands / Kayem all beef natural casing are great dogs! Grilled for me please with mustard (regular French's yellow mustard not that "poopon" stuff!!), relish and cut up onions and a dash of celery salt.

Dam I'm hungry for one now!! :)

X2, but hold the onions. A buttery toasted bun really puts it over the top!

Fishy Cover
01-11-2011, 06:10 PM
If not in the hall of fame they should be:

Dopey's Route 7 Lanesboro MA. Foot long deep fried in a pan of oil on top of the grill, toasted roll, mustard relish onion on top best in the world. 10 on a scale of 1 to 10, the standard by which all hot dogs are measured.

Theo's, East Street Pittsfield MA, mini grilled dogs on a steamed roll with chili, onion, mustard. When I was young you would get two dogs and a Nehi for 25 cents. 9.9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Of course this is my opinion and others may disagree.

tis
01-11-2011, 06:51 PM
:offtopic:

Hey Rusty... we're a pretty laid back group here and just so you know, you may need to learn to overlook some of the errors of the posters here. People don't like having every little error pointed out to them after a while and I've seen you do posts like this one on other threads; we're here to have fun and share info, and our love for the Lakes Region, if you know what I mean.

Peace.
:)
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: And I changed it to A after SS's post because I thought I must have spelled it wrong since he knows so much about the hotdogs.

Bigstan
01-11-2011, 10:48 PM
If not in the hall of fame they should be:

Dopey's Route 7 Lanesboro MA. Foot long deep fried in a pan of oil on top of the grill, toasted roll, mustard relish onion on top best in the world. 10 on a scale of 1 to 10, the standard by which all hot dogs are weasured.

Theo's, East Street Pittsfield MA, mini grilled dogs on a steamed roll with chili, onion, mustard. When I was young you would get two dogs and a Nehi for 25 cents. 9.9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Of course this is my opinion and others may disagree.

What's a Nehi? New England Health Institute, as in you pay 25 cents and get a free visit after a couple of dogs?

SIKSUKR
01-12-2011, 09:39 AM
Comminuted is actually a term which means bone broken or splintered. I purchased 100's of thousands of pounds of comminuted chicken from a Boston processor. The machine used was called a Behive press. It takes the leftover carcasses and presses like a grinder against a fine grinder plate(screen) and out comes this mudlike material. In the process, the bones get broken and squashed and and meat and marrow gets pushed through the screen.
If you look on the Kayem Schonland brand ingredient label you will find the third meat is mechanically separated chicken, which I have described as comminuted. I was in Hanaford last night and bought a 1 lb tray pack of the Kayem nc franks and found that the price per lb is now the same. The choice is easy for me.

gtxrider
01-12-2011, 09:53 AM
Love Thuman's Hot Dogs. Also Portillo's in Downers Grove, IL. Chicago Style Hot Dogs:liplick:

But my favorites are Hiram's Deep Fried...1 doggie 1 .:liplick::liplick: problem for most of you is Hiram's in in Fort Lee, NJ

Gearhead
01-12-2011, 11:31 AM
Growing up we lived on Schonlands hot dogs, and when I lived in Manchester during college, I was delighted to see that they were made locally (as in Blaine St.). Now that I've survived a nasty bout with cancer, I watch what I eat a little more carefully. We try to get the stuff which doesn't have nitrites when we do decide to splurge, but it's not an easy task. Nature's Place in Hannaford's sells them without nitrites, as far as I recall.

BTW we Pennsylvania Germans prefer sauerkraut on them.

tis
01-12-2011, 01:55 PM
Comminuted is actually a term which means bone broken or splintered. I purchased 100's of thousands of pounds of comminuted chicken from a Boston processor. The machine used was called a Behive press. It takes the leftover carcasses and presses like a grinder against a fine grinder plate(screen) and out comes this mudlike material. In the process, the bones get broken and squashed and and meat and marrow gets pushed through the screen.
If you look on the Kayem Schonland brand ingredient label you will find the third meat is mechanically separated chicken, which I have described as comminuted. I was in Hanaford last night and bought a 1 lb tray pack of the Kayem nc franks and found that the price per lb is now the same. The choice is easy for me.

Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!

Wolfeboro_Baja
01-12-2011, 04:17 PM
Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!With the good comes the bad!! :laugh:

Generically, I like dogs steamed in beer (at home) or grilled or pan-fried. Got to have ketchup and onions on them BUT if I'm buying from a vendor, then I like cheese (whatever they offer), ketchup, mustard (prefer Gulden's Spicy Brown or the old standby yellow mustard) and onions!! :D

We currently buy either Ball Park all beef or Nathan's (bun length only!) but I'm going to have to give those Kayem's a try! SIKSUKR, which one's am I looking for that do NOT have the comminuted chicken in them?? Thanks in advance! :D

SIKSUKR
01-13-2011, 07:53 AM
Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!

Just read the label guys. Anything that is not muscle meat must be listed as such.eg: hearts, tongues, lips, and the like. Contrary to the popular myth, the meat is actually very high quality, it has to be to make a proper frank and the USDA inspector is onsite all the time to watch the process. I eat them all the time and I bought all the meat and formulated all the recipes.

Argie's Wife
01-13-2011, 07:57 AM
Oh God, don't tell us any more! I USED to love hotdogs! I always KNEW they didn't have good stuff in them!

It's all animal protein, no matter what part of the animal it is...

Funny... no one has mentioned Tofu Pups yet... :liplick:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ZgF6ZggcoVQ/SrlL36gyfLI/AAAAAAAAAg4/cZyAxLx_09Q/s400/tofu+pups.JPG




(Ducking behind my morning cuppa coffee now, before a food fight erupts in the Forum....) ;):eek::laugh::)

robmac
01-13-2011, 08:50 AM
AW,that's just not right. A hotdog should be eaten for enjoyment and taste,but TOFU NOT

SIKSUKR
01-13-2011, 10:19 AM
It's all animal protein, no matter what part of the animal it is...


Yes and no. Although true that it is all animal protein, there is a difference between regular protein and collagen protein. Lips, ears, snouts, tongue, cheek and other cuts have a high collagen content and are not a good source of protein for making emulsions such as Frankfurts or bologna. This is why they must be labeled separately and not come under "beef" or "pork".

Wolfeboro_Baja
01-13-2011, 10:50 AM
SIKSUKR, this is more informative than those shows on History Channel or Food Network on food production!! :)

RE: tofu, that doesn't qualify as food in my mind, I don't care how bad the contents of "regular" hot dogs are! :eek:

gtxrider
01-13-2011, 10:52 AM
:DNobody wants a FENWAY FRANK???:D

Jonas Pilot
01-13-2011, 02:27 PM
We've all tasted 'em.

Merrymeeting
01-13-2011, 02:56 PM
:DNobody wants a FENWAY FRANK???:D

I'm sitting here reading this thread for the first time and finding my mouth watering as I read!

My favorite is a good, chilli-cheese dog. But given the choice I would take a Fenway. Not because they are the best. But because of the atmosphere.

Top of the left-field wall, mid-June, 7th inning, Sox leading...

gonetoolong
01-13-2011, 03:19 PM
a HUGE margin. Kinda surprises me, I thought it'd be the beef & pork so I'm glad I asked. Also a nice spicy mustard seems very important too...

I used the Dietz & Watsons last year but give me a vote for this year;

Kayem/Schonland all beef natural casing
Nathans all beef natural casing
Dietx & Watson all beef Natural Casing
or
Pearls all beef natural casing.
With the Pearls I can also get foot longs that are nice and thick, not the skinny footlongs but a really substantial dog.

What are the votes?

Jim C

Gearhead
01-13-2011, 04:53 PM
Yes and no. Although true that it is all animal protein, there is a difference between regular protein and collagen protein. Lips, ears, snouts, tongue, cheek and other cuts have a high collagen content and are not a good source of protein for making emulsions such as Frankfurts or bologna. This is why they must be labeled separately and not come under "beef" or "pork".

Is it just a coincidence that "College Inn" broth sounds like "collagen"?

If so, then I'd like to trademark an animal based toilet paper called "Connective Tissue".

Gearhead
01-13-2011, 05:00 PM
My hometown of York, ME has (or used to have) Flo's hot dogs. It was a little shack on Rt. one in Cape Neddick and when you went in you had to know exactly what you wanted AND what you wanted on it, including a drink. I guess it was to keep the "line" moving. I have no idea what brand she used, but we went there a few times because it was cheap. I can only imagine how long those things were on the steamer!

Bigstan
01-13-2011, 05:23 PM
My hometown of York, ME has (or used to have) Flo's hot dogs. It was a little shack on Rt. one in Cape Neddick and when you went in you had to know exactly what you wanted AND what you wanted on it, including a drink. I guess it was to keep the "line" moving. I have no idea what brand she used, but we went there a few times because it was cheap. I can only imagine how long those things were on the steamer!


A little red shack on rt 1? It's still there, though I don't recall seeing any lines.

Fishy Cover
01-14-2011, 05:44 AM
Where does one get a good hot dog in the Lakes Region?

Happy Gourmand
01-14-2011, 08:23 AM
After all this discussion, who has the best hot dog in the Lakes Region? I have to admit that I have never ordered a hot dog while up at the lake!
It would be interesting to know what brand they serve, if known, also.

SIKSUKR
01-14-2011, 09:03 AM
My hometown of York, ME has (or used to have) Flo's hot dogs. It was a little shack on Rt. one in Cape Neddick and when you went in you had to know exactly what you wanted AND what you wanted on it, including a drink. I guess it was to keep the "line" moving. I have no idea what brand she used, but we went there a few times because it was cheap. I can only imagine how long those things were on the steamer!

Flo's used to carry Jordans when I was manufacturing. Shultz also had a pretty good NC when they were made in Portsmouth.

fpartri497
01-14-2011, 09:28 AM
Where does one get a good hot dog in the Lakes Region?


The best hot dogs are from hot dog bob @ the wolfboro town docks.


Think Spring :D

Argie's Wife
01-14-2011, 11:13 AM
The best hot dogs are from hot dog bob @ the wolfboro town docks.


Think Spring :D

There was a guy with a hot dog stand at Alton Bay for a while - Rick's Dog Pound. He did a "Hell Dog" which had hot peppers and hot sauce. On a cold day, it was a great way to become an instant furnace! Unfortunately, the hawker/vendor rules changed in Alton and he had to close shop, but we really liked Rick's. The oldest Arglet had his first hot dog there! :)

KPW
01-16-2011, 11:11 PM
I have to second "Hot Dog Bob" town docks. Can't beat the view!! He has Sabrettes.

RailroadJoe
01-18-2011, 09:49 AM
Jon's in Laconia on Route 3 by Shaws sells hot dogs. Never tried them yet, because his sandwiches are the best around.

Greene's Basin Girl
01-18-2011, 03:35 PM
Jon's in Laconia on Route 3 by Shaws sells hot dogs. Never tried them yet, because his sandwiches are the best around. Is Jon's a restaurant or is it a cart outside?

RailroadJoe
01-18-2011, 04:13 PM
Jon's Roast Beef & Deli is a small restaurant on the right just before you make the left turn for Route 3 heading north in Laconia. Hard spot to find but worth the stop.

Justenuff
01-19-2011, 01:55 PM
If not in the hall of fame they should be:

Dopey's Route 7 Lanesboro MA. Foot long deep fried in a pan of oil on top of the grill, toasted roll, mustard relish onion on top best in the world. 10 on a scale of 1 to 10, the standard by which all hot dogs are measured.

Theo's, East Street Pittsfield MA, mini grilled dogs on a steamed roll with chili, onion, mustard. When I was young you would get two dogs and a Nehi for 25 cents. 9.9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Of course this is my opinion and others may disagree.

It's Teos on East St in Pittsfield. When I was growing up, they used to buy their dogs from Whorle's, which also provided Dopey's their dogs. We used to get them as well for 25 cents and they went better with a cold Narragansett or PBR from the tap. Every time I get back to the Berkshires, I stop by and have a few. You do have to get them with the chili too.

Now, it's Kayem natural casings, cole slaw and chili....something I learned in eastern North Carolina. My kids look at me funny when I have them that way.

BTW, was it a grape Nehi, or orange?

sa meredith
01-19-2011, 04:34 PM
Oh my God...forgot all about Teo's. Their was one in North Adams when I went to school at North Adams State back in the mid 80's. Wow...I had forgot about it.
They were good, and inexpensive, as I recall. Certainly not he best though...but on the budget of a college kid...
Now...while there, we survived by eating at another very famous hog dog place in down town North Adams.
An old greasy spoon of a place, with only 10 seats in the whole place...all at the counter. You could get a whole meal back then (fries, dog, burger, warm fountain soda) for under 3 bucks...seriously.
So, trivia...does anyone know the name of that famous place??? Still open, I believe.

john60ri
01-19-2011, 05:54 PM
We have a hot dog chain down here in RI called Spike's Junkyard Dog. Been around 10-15 years and they seem to be doing well. I believe they are in Mass too. Anybody heard of them?

Lucky2Bhere
01-19-2011, 09:27 PM
Costco dogs are great (and cheap w/soda) but if I was cooking for a "special" cookout at home it would be Pearls, hands down. All beef, big, and tasty. Most of the family likes them burned and bursting.

Justenuff
01-20-2011, 07:28 AM
Oh my God...forgot all about Teo's. Their was one in North Adams when I went to school at North Adams State back in the mid 80's. Wow...I had forgot about it.
They were good, and inexpensive, as I recall. Certainly not he best though...but on the budget of a college kid...
Now...while there, we survived by eating at another very famous hog dog place in down town North Adams.
An old greasy spoon of a place, with only 10 seats in the whole place...all at the counter. You could get a whole meal back then (fries, dog, burger, warm fountain soda) for under 3 bucks...seriously.
So, trivia...does anyone know the name of that famous place??? Still open, I believe.

I never made it to Adams/North Adams area much, except to play bball at McCann Tech once a year, but I do remember stopping here with my Dad.
Is this the place?

http://www.jackshotdogstand.com/

Fishy Cover
01-20-2011, 07:45 AM
Glad to see that others recognize Teo's and it's fun to reminisce. Here's a bit of hot dog history for you. In the 50's in Pittsfield MA there was a famous bar & luncheonette on Linden St. officially called the Linden Lunch but everyone called it the Hot Dog Ranch. That's where I started getting 2 hot dogs and a Nehi for 25 cents. I preferred Nehi orange or red cream. (btw-- remember that Radar on Mash drank Nehi?).

Teo Bilia was a salesman/route driver for the company that made the rolls for the hot dogs and saw the Linden Lunch's volume so he started Teo's in what was a Tastee Freeze. The Linden lunch closed shortly afterward. Teo's wife and my mom worked together before she (Ms. Bilia) left to run the restaurant while Teo continued to sell bread & rolls. Unfortunately Teo died in the mid 60's (I think) and the Mrs. sold the business which has continued to prosper.

When we go back to Pittsfield we always return with 25 to 50 hot dogs for family and friends here.

sa meredith
01-20-2011, 12:37 PM
I never made it to Adams/North Adams area much, except to play bball at McCann Tech once a year, but I do remember stopping here with my Dad.
Is this the place?

http://www.jackshotdogstand.com/

Yes sir...that's the place...sophmore year (1986) we rented a house 2 blocks from Jack's. Went there two or three weeknights every week, and every single Saturday, during the winter. Wake up at noon, crawl out of bed, and go to Jack's Hot Dogs for hangover medicine. The pictures in the link are what that place has been like forever. Always had to wait in line (only 10 seats, grease literally running down the walls), but everyone ate quickly to move the line along....even if there was 20/25 ahead of you, it went quick...The prices are still dirt cheap...but double what we paid in the 80's. Back then, dogs .45, cheese burgers .65, fries .50. You'd fill up for 3 bucks...which is usually about all I had.
North Adams in the winter time...what a treat?!

Justenuff
01-26-2011, 10:26 AM
Glad to see that others recognize Teo's and it's fun to reminisce. Here's a bit of hot dog history for you. In the 50's in Pittsfield MA there was a famous bar & luncheonette on Linden St. officially called the Linden Lunch but everyone called it the Hot Dog Ranch. That's where I started getting 2 hot dogs and a Nehi for 25 cents. I preferred Nehi orange or red cream. (btw-- remember that Radar on Mash drank Nehi?).

Teo Bilia was a salesman/route driver for the company that made the rolls for the hot dogs and saw the Linden Lunch's volume so he started Teo's in what was a Tastee Freeze. The Linden lunch closed shortly afterward. Teo's wife and my mom worked together before she (Ms. Bilia) left to run the restaurant while Teo continued to sell bread & rolls. Unfortunately Teo died in the mid 60's (I think) and the Mrs. sold the business which has continued to prosper.

When we go back to Pittsfield we always return with 25 to 50 hot dogs for family and friends here.

Great History, I never knew the connection
I used to go to the Hot Dog Ranch as well. My buddy and I used to go for lunch because he worked at Pittsfield Supply (his father owned the store) and we could walk across the parking lot. Sometimes we went to the Lantern Restaurant.

Got my first legal beers at both Teos and the Hot Dog Ranch.:D

wuwu
01-30-2011, 09:04 AM
If not in the hall of fame they should be:

Dopey's Route 7 Lanesboro MA. Foot long deep fried in a pan of oil on top of the grill, toasted roll, mustard relish onion on top best in the world. 10 on a scale of 1 to 10, the standard by which all hot dogs are measured.

Theo's, East Street Pittsfield MA, mini grilled dogs on a steamed roll with chili, onion, mustard. When I was young you would get two dogs and a Nehi for 25 cents. 9.9 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Of course this is my opinion and others may disagree.
Forgot about Dopeys! The best in the world! and Teo's yum! Thanks for the memories!

Rattlesnake Guy
02-03-2011, 08:42 PM
All the talk about my favorite (Schonlands) reminds me of when I was a kid. My parents had 5 kids and some of you have seen how big I ended up. To save money they would buy the irregulars of the Schondlands natural casings. I assume from when they were setting up the machine. The dogs would range from a half inch ball to the occasional 18 incher. I remember being surprised at around 12 years old when I realized that hot dogs did not come in any size you felt like.

The secret to grilling a dog is to heat it slow enough that it cooks from the inside out. Patience. When they split open, they are done.

Roll grilled in a frying pan with a little butter.

Half the time plain. Half with a little yellow mustard.

Couple times a year with some sweet relish.

Couple times a year with grilled onions.

Pineedles
02-03-2011, 08:45 PM
I gotta say, after 87 posts for a topic that is all about hot dogs if you are out of work, then open up a hotdog stand and you'll soon be making some real money.:laugh:

Gearhead
02-04-2011, 12:46 PM
I'm curious, but when you're eating a "natural casing" hotdog and you encounter what looks to me like a polyp, do you avoid it or just eat it?:rolleye2:

Nagigator
02-04-2011, 04:33 PM
I'm curious, but when you're eating a "natural casing" hotdog and you encounter what looks to me like a polyp, do you avoid it or just eat it?:rolleye2:


Thats just gross! :eek: