Update to Lake Related Legislation

fatlazyless · 03-31-2024, 03:40 AM

www.wakethelakenh.com happens in about six weeks , Fri-Sat-Sun, May 17-18-19, at Weirs Beach NH. This year, 2024 will be the third annual outdoor block party and this year it will have live bands on three stages, all weekend.

So, what does this have to do with wake boarding on Lake Winnipesaukee? Well, the name is 'Wake the Lake, New Hampshire' which sends a strong message. Instead of using the word 'Wake', it could have been Rock the Lake or Party the Lake, but it is Wake the Lake which uses the word 'Wake' as a verb and it takes place at Weirs Beach, Laconia on beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee.

Does that send a message that Lake Winnipesaukee is the place to go for wake boarding, or what, with the phrase 'Wake the Lake-NH'.

codeman671 · 03-31-2024, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fatlazyless

www.wakethelakenh.com happens in about six weeks , Fri-Sat-Sun, May 17-18-19, at Weirs Beach NH. This year, 2024 will be the third annual outdoor block party and this year it will have live bands on three stages, all weekend.

So, what does this have to do with wake boarding on Lake Winnipesaukee? Well, the name is 'Wake the Lake, New Hampshire' which sends a strong message. Instead of using the word 'Wake', it could have been Rock the Lake or Party the Lake, but it is Wake the Lake which uses the word 'Wake' as a verb and it takes place at Weirs Beach, Laconia on beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee.

Does that send a message that Lake Winnipesaukee is the place to go for wake boarding, or what, with the phrase 'Wake the Lake-NH'.

Or maybe it has absolutely nothing to do with wakesports, and is about waking the lakes region up from a long crappy winter, and getting people back in the mode for summer?

Rich · 03-31-2024, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

Or maybe it has absolutely nothing to do with wakesports, and is about waking the lakes region up from a long crappy winter, and getting people back in the mode for summer?

I agree, IMHO it's "wake" as in wake up from a long winter's nap!

John Mercier · 03-31-2024, 11:44 AM

More than likely it is because it rhymes with LAKE.

If if was BAKE the LAKE, you would get a whole different crowd. It would still work for Laconia's party persona.

Laconia, and particularly the Weirs, only have the party atmosphere to fall back on. They haven't really been able to develop another persona.

They tried to build a new manufacturing base under the Straight Arrows... but not one of them had any real knowledge of manufacturing or the issues around it.

They tried to rebuild agricultural... but I believe that turned into cultural... and has gone away. Again, no one on the Council currently understands agriculture.

So it is easier just to fall back on the party.

Descant · 03-31-2024, 02:22 PM

I rem ember "urban renewal" in the 60's and 70's, not just in Laconia. But there really wasn't much vision. Relying on a few weeks of tourism doesn't build an economy with year round jobs. Yes, we need workforce housing, but that doesn't bring in growth type jobs or businesses. Urban renewal in Laconia upgraded the downtown, but the growth went to the Belknap Mall. Tilton and in the other direction, McIntyre Circle. If you're going for the "party" plan start with a huge convention center that can function year round. Something easily convertible to a casino. The State School would be ideal, but make it 100% commercial and forget about mixed use. Golf, perhaps. People that vote for networks of hiking trails don't spend money.

John Mercier · 03-31-2024, 06:19 PM

Actually the City will not be investing in workforce housing... it is asking private investors to do that. And no trails were part of the original plan, they lead to questionable access... which is why the SD/LB residents are opposed to the WOW. The inclusion of them was partially to blame for the loss of funding support.

The manufacturing issue, at the time, was thought to be access to the highway (thus the location next to the bypass) and having utilities present on-site.
After the sale of Hadco to Sanmina, it was discovered that NH didn't have the best business energy or taxation situation. Sanmina opted to shut the NH locations and keep the one in NY.

The ''NH Advantage'' was at time when we coaxed manufacturers from MA into NH. We hadn't really paid much attention to other Northeast States, and to be truthful didn't think much outside of New England.

The downtown situation is unique; possibly along business lines.
I used to purchase my Carhartt and boots from Bootleggers... which create questions about support for Osborne's in my own town - though I don't even know if they carry Carhartt any more; and my jeans from Walmart. But Tractor Supply in Gilford is now carrying my Wranglers (not that flex skinny jean stuff) Carhartt, and Timberland. And with the bypass, it isn't that much further to hit Gilford.

My dress shoes will probably be the ones that I buried or cremated in... as they are well taken care of and not likely to need repair with the amount of usage they get. So I haven't been to Bootleggers in a while; and probably will not ever again.

Not that every consumer has the same pattern... but our new POS systems are supplying much more data on consumption patterns and individual consumers than anyone ever thought possible.

codeman671 · 04-03-2024, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

More than likely it is because it rhymes with LAKE.

If if was BAKE the LAKE, you would get a whole different crowd. It would still work for Laconia's party persona.

Laconia, and particularly the Weirs, only have the party atmosphere to fall back on. They haven't really been able to develop another persona.

They tried to build a new manufacturing base under the Straight Arrows... but not one of them had any real knowledge of manufacturing or the issues around it.

They tried to rebuild agricultural... but I believe that turned into cultural... and has gone away. Again, no one on the Council currently understands agriculture.

So it is easier just to fall back on the party.

Tower Hill Tavern is having a “bake the lake” on 4/20…it’s on their fb page.

John Mercier · 04-05-2024, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by codeman671

Tower Hill Tavern is having a “bake the lake” on 4/20…it’s on their fb page.

Somehow I saw that coming...

Next thing will be ''Take the Lake'' with one big meth movement.
The Parade will start in downtown Laconia and move briskly up the WOW trail, down the rails track behind SD (a weekend camping jamboree on their beach with free syringes for those that want to partake in other mood altering substances), and short trip down the rail line to the Weirs for a completely comatose lake version of Woodstock on Weirs Beach.

ishoot308 · 04-05-2024, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by John Mercier

Somehow I saw that coming...

Next thing will be ''Take the Lake'' with one big meth movement.
The Parade will start in downtown Laconia and move briskly up the WOW trail, down the rails track behind SD (a weekend camping jamboree on their beach with free syringes for those that want to partake in other mood altering substances), and short trip down the rail line to the Weirs for a completely comatose lake version of Woodstock on Weirs Beach.

Holy cow John...I didn't think you had it in you! That was hilarious!!

Keep it up!

Dan

John Mercier · 04-05-2024, 08:44 AM

I actually wish that I had done it in jest.

I have some very bad feelings for the future of Laconia.

03-31-2024, 03:40 AM	#1
fatlazyless Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,547 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 297 Thanked 958 Times in 699 Posts	Fri-Sat-Sun, May 17-18-19, 2024: Wake the Lake, N.H. www.wakethelakenh.com happens in about six weeks , Fri-Sat-Sun, May 17-18-19, at Weirs Beach NH. This year, 2024 will be the third annual outdoor block party and this year it will have live bands on three stages, all weekend. So, what does this have to do with wake boarding on Lake Winnipesaukee? Well, the name is 'Wake the Lake, New Hampshire' which sends a strong message. Instead of using the word 'Wake', it could have been Rock the Lake or Party the Lake, but it is Wake the Lake which uses the word 'Wake' as a verb and it takes place at Weirs Beach, Laconia on beautiful Lake Winnipesaukee. Does that send a message that Lake Winnipesaukee is the place to go for wake boarding, or what, with the phrase 'Wake the Lake-NH'. __________________ ... down and out, liv'n that Walmart side of the lake!

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03-31-2024, 11:44 AM	#4
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,059 Thanks: 2 Thanked 533 Times in 439 Posts	More than likely it is because it rhymes with LAKE. If if was BAKE the LAKE, you would get a whole different crowd. It would still work for Laconia's party persona. Laconia, and particularly the Weirs, only have the party atmosphere to fall back on. They haven't really been able to develop another persona. They tried to build a new manufacturing base under the Straight Arrows... but not one of them had any real knowledge of manufacturing or the issues around it. They tried to rebuild agricultural... but I believe that turned into cultural... and has gone away. Again, no one on the Council currently understands agriculture. So it is easier just to fall back on the party.

03-31-2024, 02:22 PM	#5
Descant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Merrimack and Welch Island Posts: 4,075 Thanks: 1,232 Thanked 1,532 Times in 990 Posts	I rem ember "urban renewal" in the 60's and 70's, not just in Laconia. But there really wasn't much vision. Relying on a few weeks of tourism doesn't build an economy with year round jobs. Yes, we need workforce housing, but that doesn't bring in growth type jobs or businesses. Urban renewal in Laconia upgraded the downtown, but the growth went to the Belknap Mall. Tilton and in the other direction, McIntyre Circle. If you're going for the "party" plan start with a huge convention center that can function year round. Something easily convertible to a casino. The State School would be ideal, but make it 100% commercial and forget about mixed use. Golf, perhaps. People that vote for networks of hiking trails don't spend money.

03-31-2024, 06:19 PM	#6
John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,059 Thanks: 2 Thanked 533 Times in 439 Posts	Actually the City will not be investing in workforce housing... it is asking private investors to do that. And no trails were part of the original plan, they lead to questionable access... which is why the SD/LB residents are opposed to the WOW. The inclusion of them was partially to blame for the loss of funding support. The manufacturing issue, at the time, was thought to be access to the highway (thus the location next to the bypass) and having utilities present on-site. After the sale of Hadco to Sanmina, it was discovered that NH didn't have the best business energy or taxation situation. Sanmina opted to shut the NH locations and keep the one in NY. The ''NH Advantage'' was at time when we coaxed manufacturers from MA into NH. We hadn't really paid much attention to other Northeast States, and to be truthful didn't think much outside of New England. The downtown situation is unique; possibly along business lines. I used to purchase my Carhartt and boots from Bootleggers... which create questions about support for Osborne's in my own town - though I don't even know if they carry Carhartt any more; and my jeans from Walmart. But Tractor Supply in Gilford is now carrying my Wranglers (not that flex skinny jean stuff) Carhartt, and Timberland. And with the bypass, it isn't that much further to hit Gilford. My dress shoes will probably be the ones that I buried or cremated in... as they are well taken care of and not likely to need repair with the amount of usage they get. So I haven't been to Bootleggers in a while; and probably will not ever again. Not that every consumer has the same pattern... but our new POS systems are supplying much more data on consumption patterns and individual consumers than anyone ever thought possible.

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John Mercier Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 3,059 Thanks: 2 Thanked 533 Times in 439 Posts	I actually wish that I had done it in jest. I have some very bad feelings for the future of Laconia.